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 everything has the ability to cause cancer If ya pinch a ladies tit boom it may cause cancer If ya stand in front of a microwave while using it boom causes cancer ...We need to stop this huge cancer scare and fucking come up with a herpe scale If u touch a public toilet seat with ur hand or ass u may get herpes  Uber-banned
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I've used X-factor and it works very well. Yes you need to limit your EFAs and lessen the use of anti-inflamitories if you use them. It is safe to use. Is very effective with proper diet. If you have any questions about X-factor and I'll answer all that I can.
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X-factor is normally taken for a 50 day cycle followed by 50 days off cycle. I under-estimated how effective X-factor is and didn't eat enough calories and protein and actually lost 8lbs of fat during the 50 days. My training was nothing special. I train 5 days a week. I usually do 4 sets for 8 reps per exercise for core muscles and 3 sets for 8 reps on secondary muscles. About 3-4 different exercises per muscle group.
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| QUOTE (kimp @ Nov 1 2005, 10:54 PM) | | QUOTE (CDONDICI @ Nov 1 2005, 06:54 PM) | | It is probably not worth the price, and also I think I read somwhere that it can cause cancer(not sure on that one). |
doesnt everything cause cancer though?
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Im sure one cycle will not hurt you, but cancer is not something to f around with
5'9 202 lbs 22 yrs old
Power Snatch 210 lbs
Bench 365 lbs
Power Clean & Jerk 255 lbs
Deadlift 580 lbs
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| QUOTE (Pxboarder @ Nov 2 2005, 09:49 PM) | | what were your strenth gains like for the major lifts ....bench press, squat, dead, and shoulder press. |
I had a modest strength increase which is good for me. When I usually drop bodyweight I loose a ton of strength. To actually have a modest strength increase while dropping weight was a big thing to me. It really showed how effective X-factor can be.
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| QUOTE (rich_55 @ Nov 3 2005, 10:08 PM) | | I still find it difficult to imagine cutting back my efa's to use this product efficiently. Tell me what you did? That basically means no added good fats only food from dietary sources such as dairy and meat. |
You don't have to cut all out but limit the amount you consume. I was consuming 2 servings of natural Peanut Butter a day which I quit while taking X-factor and stopped eating nuts which I just ate occasionally. You can still consume some EFA but only consume a limited amount.
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| QUOTE (trouble @ Nov 4 2005, 03:41 AM) | So what exactly is this compounds/formulation?
If prostanoids interfere with it....let me guess, its fricking arachadonic acid.
Holy shit.
Yeah, lets just inject the compound that signals for cell adhesion loss, especially if we want to stack with steroids that induce high rates of cell turn over and hyperplasia! Bingo.
And no, Roj, everything does NOT cause cancer.
But some poorly thought out stacks certainly bend probability towards unhappy outcomes.
I wonder what the lipid peroxidation and liver chemistry profiles look like for users of this product...hmmm. |
Trouble I assume you do not recommend AA?
5'9 202 lbs 22 yrs old
Power Snatch 210 lbs
Bench 365 lbs
Power Clean & Jerk 255 lbs
Deadlift 580 lbs
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Not so much that I'm against it, its just such a dang important system control regulator, in both body tissue and in brain. Now, you go take a look at these articles. I'm not going to paste em in here, cause they're long and involved discussion of what will appear to be arcane and confusing activities. Point is, you're fiddling with a whole complex set of controls in the brain in particular, when you use this compounds, cause its stores - says that somewhere in the middle of the first article. It gets released under certain sets of signals. Key here is to note that cells clamp down, regulate the release of this arachidonic acid - cause its such an important trigger for so many different and highly important processes. Thats a big switch your're thowing, when you load up brain cells and other tissues with this compound. General actions: http://www.arthritis.co.za/arachid.htmlhttp://www-ermm.cbcu.cam.ac.uk/03005854h.htmActions in the brain: http://www.acnp.org/g4/GN401000059/CH059.htmlThis article discussed how AA acts on Leydig cells in testes, acting to regulate LH action - note that it decreases test production. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...5&dopt=AbstractAA is intrinsic to lipid metabolism: http://web.indstate.edu/thcme/mwking/lipid-synthesis.htmlAnd you'll see that the HETE metabolites play an important role in steroidigensis in adrenals, sex organs and act as neurohormone regulators in brain. http://joe.endocrinology-journals.org/cgi/...stract/125/1/89http://content.febsjournal.org/cgi/content...act/269/22/5599This article states explicitly that the action of AA is much more complex than previously thought (2005 pub): http://mend.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/19/11/2647(see also the discussion of AA action in brain, above, and in LH regulation, above) http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/conte...bstract/1/6/349AA plays an important role in immune system function and the inflammatory response: http://www.australianprescriber.com/magazi...eukotrienes.htmI am not so much against use of AA as an supplement, as I am stressing extreme caution in its use. It has many positive and beneficial roles in the body..but in excess, may have an equally weighty role in the perturbation of control systems with negative consequences. As in all supplements, know what you're taking, use prudence and moderation in use. proud hyperborean
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X-factor, i thought...
