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 there has been a shitload of talk and debate about JW's ingredients on bb.com and am.com whether it is a steroid or not and ALRI wrote this after a week or two into demanding a clarification of JW's ADED ingredient Originally Posted by ALRIPlease let me get this straight. ... ... Now, JW has an analog of ATD in it called 17a-methyl-5a-dehydroetiocholane-4,6-dien-3-one-17-ol = 6-dehydromethyltestosterone. It certainly could have anabolic value if dosed pretty high but certainly not comparable to D-Bol any more than 11-oxo-Testosterone is an illegal hard core steroid just because it is a testosterone analog. .... 1) D-bol= 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-1,4-androstadien-3-one (1-dehydromethyltestosterone) 2) Boldenone= 1,4-androstadiene-3-one-17β-ol 3) Oral turinabol= 4-chloro-17?-hydroxy-17a-methylandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one (4-dehydromethyltestosterone) 4) ATD=1,4,6-androstratrien-3,17-dione 5) JW compound =17a-methyl-5a-dehydroetiocholane-4,6-dien-3-one-17-ol = 6-dehydromethyltestosterone (JW compound) this whole debate started after people reported gyno and natty test shut down from using an AI= aromatase inhibitor (shouldnt be producing gyno side effects) ive been doing ALOT of research after getting JW<-didnt take it (thank god) "JW = ADED = 6-dehydromethyltestosterone, which is 40% as androgenic and 60% as anabolic as methyltestosterone, mg per mg"
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 | QUOTE (opfor101 @ Jul 1 2007, 11:51 PM) | i was wondering the same thing a month or two ago and i have asked big ben about it
since when i looked at the nomenclature it was quite suspicious. |
Earlier in the month (last month) someone stated that the Anabolic Pump / Jungle Warfare stack did not in fact need any PCT because they were not Prohormones nor Steroids? Anyone got any suggestions for someone who's just about to finish a bottle?
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 | QUOTE (OmniRed @ Jul 2 2007, 02:05 AM) | | QUOTE (opfor101 @ Jul 1 2007, 11:51 PM) | i was wondering the same thing a month or two ago and i have asked big ben about it
since when i looked at the nomenclature it was quite suspicious. |
Earlier in the month (last month) someone stated that the Anabolic Pump / Jungle Warfare stack did not in fact need any PCT because they were not Prohormones nor Steroids? Anyone got any suggestions for someone who's just about to finish a bottle? |
as ALRI stated it would not require any PCT at the recommended dosages simply because natty test levels arent suppressed nor are they shut down.
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 | QUOTE (opfor101 @ Jul 1 2007, 11:47 PM) | there has been a shitload of talk and debate about JW's ingredients on bb.com and am.com whether it is a steroid or not and ALRI wrote this after a week or two into demanding a clarification of JW's ADED ingredient
Originally Posted by ALRI Please let me get this straight. ...
... Now, JW has an analog of ATD in it called 17a-methyl-5a-dehydroetiocholane-4,6-dien-3-one-17-ol = 6-dehydromethyltestosterone. It certainly could have anabolic value if dosed pretty high but certainly not comparable to D-Bol any more than 11-oxo-Testosterone is an illegal hard core steroid just because it is a testosterone analog. ....
1) D-bol= 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-1,4-androstadien-3-one (1-dehydromethyltestosterone)
2) Boldenone= 1,4-androstadiene-3-one-17β-ol
3) Oral turinabol= 4-chloro-17?-hydroxy-17a-methylandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one (4-dehydromethyltestosterone)
4) ATD=1,4,6-androstratrien-3,17-dione
5) JW compound =17a-methyl-5a-dehydroetiocholane-4,6-dien-3-one-17-ol = 6-dehydromethyltestosterone (JW compound)
this whole debate started after people reported gyno and natty test shut down
from using an AI= aromatase inhibitor (shouldnt be producing gyno side effects) ive been doing ALOT of research after getting JW<-didnt take it (thank god)
"JW = ADED = 6-dehydromethyltestosterone, which is 40% as androgenic and 60% as anabolic as methyltestosterone, mg per mg" |
So its turnabol,Boldenon,Dbol and atd? Wouldnt this mean for the Boldenone to take effect it would take more than 4-6 weeks. Id personally shoot about 500mg of test And make it a great cycle.
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 | QUOTE (Arnoldclone @ Jul 3 2007, 11:47 AM) | | This shit aint a steroid. Ive takin similar shit to roids, and this stuff wasnt even close. |
Yeah, its just as strong as taking creatine just a tad better since its alittle hormonal. With JW you'll add about 5lbs in a month, I'm stacking it with AP right nizzzow! Good stuff but not very strong. But you can tell its better than taking tribulus because after a week your muscles feel tight and decently hard, strength starts to rise 10-20lbs here and there after a couple weeks. Take it at recommended dosage like you should everything else and no worries. The first time I took it with BAM and never noticed any shutdown but I followed instructions. Only on my second day with my 2nd cycle.
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