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> JW is a steroid.., ADED=6-dehydromethyltestosteron
Posted: Jul 1 2007, 11:47 PM
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there has been a shitload of talk and debate about JW's ingredients on bb.com and am.com
whether it is a steroid or not and ALRI wrote this after a week or two into demanding a clarification of JW's ADED ingredient

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... Now, JW has an analog of ATD in it called 17a-methyl-5a-dehydroetiocholane-4,6-dien-3-one-17-ol = 6-dehydromethyltestosterone. It certainly could have anabolic value if dosed pretty high but certainly not comparable to D-Bol any more than 11-oxo-Testosterone is an illegal hard core steroid just because it is a testosterone analog. ....


1) D-bol= 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-1,4-androstadien-3-one (1-dehydromethyltestosterone)

2) Boldenone= 1,4-androstadiene-3-one-17β-ol

3) Oral turinabol= 4-chloro-17?-hydroxy-17a-methylandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one (4-dehydromethyltestosterone)

4) ATD=1,4,6-androstratrien-3,17-dione

5) JW compound =17a-methyl-5a-dehydroetiocholane-4,6-dien-3-one-17-ol = 6-dehydromethyltestosterone (JW compound)


this whole debate started after people reported gyno and natty test shut down

from using an AI= aromatase inhibitor (shouldnt be producing gyno side effects)
ive been doing ALOT of research after getting JW<-didnt take it (thank god)

"JW = ADED = 6-dehydromethyltestosterone, which is 40% as androgenic and 60% as anabolic as methyltestosterone, mg per mg"

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i was wondering the same thing a month or two ago and i have asked big ben about it

since when i looked at the nomenclature it was quite suspicious.

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Posted: Jul 2 2007, 01:54 AM
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how long had these people been taking it?

I am almost done with my first bottle and i honestly haven't really been able to tell anything good or bad from it at all.


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QUOTE (opfor101 @ Jul 1 2007, 11:51 PM)
i was wondering the same thing a month or two ago and i have asked big ben about it

since when i looked at the nomenclature it was quite suspicious.

Earlier in the month (last month) someone stated that the Anabolic Pump / Jungle Warfare stack did not in fact need any PCT because they were not Prohormones nor Steroids?

Anyone got any suggestions for someone who's just about to finish a bottle?

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i believe it is that JW isnt quite underdosed to exhibit effects of a steroid, and ALRI said that it will exhibit androgenic effects when taken at high enough dosages and would require PCT. this is like taking 6-7 pills a day for 6 weeks. which normal people do only about 3 pills aday

at the way its dosed it acts as an AI but once you go over the recommended dosage it becomes more anabolic.


oh yeah the only people who reported cases of gyno were those who megadosed on a cycle of JW, so i guess theres nothing to worry about for you.

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QUOTE (OmniRed @ Jul 2 2007, 02:05 AM)
QUOTE (opfor101 @ Jul 1 2007, 11:51 PM)
i was wondering the same thing a month or two ago and i have asked big ben about it

since when i looked at the nomenclature it was quite suspicious.

Earlier in the month (last month) someone stated that the Anabolic Pump / Jungle Warfare stack did not in fact need any PCT because they were not Prohormones nor Steroids?

Anyone got any suggestions for someone who's just about to finish a bottle?

as ALRI stated it would not require any PCT at the recommended dosages simply because natty test levels arent suppressed nor are they shut down.

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No wonder I liked this so much! laugh.gif

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nice info opfor, looks like im gonna be on 8 a day when i start tacking it....lol.

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So is it even an AI at all? I ran it two weeks and felt shutdown, so now I know why.
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at the doses recommended (3 pills/ day) it supposedly acts as an AI. but no its not an AI, its a steroid compound.

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I took 4 caps a day and experienced zero shutdown. In fact, my libido was a little higher than usual.

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QUOTE (ANIMAL333 @ Jul 2 2007, 04:03 PM)
I took 4 caps a day and experienced zero shutdown. In fact, my libido was a little higher than usual.

4 is quite low dose, shut down or gyno pretty much happened to only those megadosing this.<-even so some didnt experience shutdown then.

you can see alot of threads about this on bb and am

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QUOTE (opfor101 @ Jul 2 2007, 04:09 PM)
4 is quite low dose

Crap, I've been taking 3/day...shoulda bumped that to 4-5!

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QUOTE (opfor101 @ Jul 1 2007, 11:47 PM)
there has been a shitload of talk and debate about JW's ingredients on bb.com and am.com
whether it is a steroid or not and ALRI wrote this after a week or two into demanding a clarification of JW's ADED ingredient

Originally Posted by ALRI
Please let me get this straight. ...


... Now, JW has an analog of ATD in it called 17a-methyl-5a-dehydroetiocholane-4,6-dien-3-one-17-ol = 6-dehydromethyltestosterone. It certainly could have anabolic value if dosed pretty high but certainly not comparable to D-Bol any more than 11-oxo-Testosterone is an illegal hard core steroid just because it is a testosterone analog. ....


1) D-bol= 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-1,4-androstadien-3-one (1-dehydromethyltestosterone)

2) Boldenone= 1,4-androstadiene-3-one-17β-ol

3) Oral turinabol= 4-chloro-17?-hydroxy-17a-methylandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one (4-dehydromethyltestosterone)

4) ATD=1,4,6-androstratrien-3,17-dione

5) JW compound =17a-methyl-5a-dehydroetiocholane-4,6-dien-3-one-17-ol = 6-dehydromethyltestosterone (JW compound)


this whole debate started after people reported gyno and natty test shut down

from using an AI= aromatase inhibitor (shouldnt be producing gyno side effects)
ive been doing ALOT of research after getting JW<-didnt take it (thank god)

"JW = ADED = 6-dehydromethyltestosterone, which is 40% as androgenic and 60% as anabolic as methyltestosterone, mg per mg"

So its turnabol,Boldenon,Dbol and atd? Wouldnt this mean for the Boldenone to take effect it would take more than 4-6 weeks. Id personally shoot about 500mg of test And make it a great cycle.

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QUOTE (No1willstopMe @ Jul 2 2007, 04:36 PM)
So its turnabol,Boldenon,Dbol and atd? Wouldnt this mean for the Boldenone to take effect it would take more than 4-6 weeks. Id personally shoot about 500mg of test And make it a great cycle.

Dude, there's no way you've ever actually taken AAS or PH, so please limit your posts to the "Off Topic" section before some newbie takes your advice seriously.

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QUOTE (JW32Hoops @ Jul 2 2007, 04:38 PM)
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So its turnabol,Boldenon,Dbol and atd? Wouldnt this mean for the Boldenone to take effect it would take more than 4-6 weeks. Id personally shoot about 500mg of test And make it a great cycle.

Dude, there's no way you've ever actually taken AAS or PH, so please limit your posts to the "Off Topic" section before some newbie takes your advice seriously.

i heard he was on the orange juice diet while on roids.

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This shit aint a steroid. Ive takin similar shit to roids, and this stuff wasnt even close.

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I always had a suspicion that there was something in JW that screamed androgen...

just the way glycogen storage skyrockets, the pumps, acne... I always feel like i'm "ON" somethin when taking it... so i would not doubt it for a second that this product has anabolic/androgenic value

at the given dose it definately doesn't compare to other PH's out there but it's by far the closest thing to it!

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QUOTE (Arnoldclone @ Jul 3 2007, 11:47 AM)
This shit aint a steroid. Ive takin similar shit to roids, and this stuff wasnt even close.

Yeah, its just as strong as taking creatine just a tad better since its alittle hormonal.

With JW you'll add about 5lbs in a month, I'm stacking it with AP right nizzzow!


Good stuff but not very strong. But you can tell its better than taking tribulus because after a week your muscles feel tight and decently hard, strength starts to rise 10-20lbs here and there after a couple weeks.

Take it at recommended dosage like you should everything else and no worries.

The first time I took it with BAM and never noticed any shutdown but I followed instructions. Only on my second day with my 2nd cycle.

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