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Posted: Dec 6 2007, 09:05 AM
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I am looking for an energy supplement that i can use for motivation to train.
Which one can i combine with mine medicines?
I am taking lithium for manisch depression disease.And i take anti psychotica pill(Orap,pimozide)
I do not reacted very good on Yohimbe.
Caffeine does not help me.
I like to train but because of mine depression i am very tired.So i need an energizer to train.Is there somebody here who had the same problem or have an good advice on a supplement that help me to start training.

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Posted: Dec 6 2007, 01:11 PM
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Well I don't know how you will react with it but try some Monster energy drinks before your workout.
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Posted: Dec 6 2007, 07:26 PM
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No one but your psychiatrist will be able to answer your question.

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Posted: Dec 6 2007, 07:29 PM
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I agree with TheDeisel. Speak with your doctor to find the best solution.

Maybe joining a class may help too. I am a great believer in the benefits of martial arts classes with regards to motivation. If there is a weight lifting club in your area, that may help too. Working out with new people, and having a social side to training, can really help with motivation.

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As tough as it may be, sign up for a cycling class, or mixed martial arts, or whatever interests you, you will sleep better at night, feel better about urself and get to be around people all at the same time, go 4 a pre workout that doesnt have an energy complex, id reccommend Fast Twitch's cyto-sport, i think that the lemonade flavor is the non stimulant version, theres plenty out there tho
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This is a medical question and should be answered by a licensed professional. Remember, your mind is the best energy supplement you have. Without the right mindset when entering the gym nothing will help.

To add to this, I was once on Lexapro and Xanax for deprssion and anxiety and I can relate to your situation. I found that meditating and picturing what goals I wanted to achieve got me ready for the gym everytime.
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print out the labels for pre-workout supps like no-xplode and no black powder for when you do see the doc.






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Posted: Dec 7 2007, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (Frank1 @ Dec 6 2007, 09:05 AM)
I am looking for an energy supplement that i can use for motivation to train.
Which one can i combine with mine medicines?
I am taking lithium for manisch depression disease.And i take anti psychotica pill(Orap,pimozide)
I do not reacted very good on Yohimbe.
Caffeine does not help me.
I like to train but because of mine depression i am very tired.So i need an energizer to train.Is there somebody here who had the same problem or have an good advice on a supplement that help me to start training.

Thanks

I can relate I am also manic depressive, realistically there is not much we can take with the medication we take without bad interactions, especially in regard to stimulants. If I were you I would look into nootropics, such as Alcar and others a good nootropic stack can help alleviate the mental fatigue brought to us by our meds. I am currently running, Alcar, Piracetam, Choline Citrate and vipocetine, along with other antioxidants to help stimulate glucose metablosim in the brain.Also look to cleaning up your diet and doing some cardio, to naturally elevate natural levels of catecholamines.
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Posted: Dec 7 2007, 08:37 PM
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Look into Taurine - not all that great as an energizer but it could be helpful to you - Read the articel Tolson posted on this site and google Taurine & Bipolar or Taurine & Depression.
I find Taurine + CEE really helpful for recovery from intense workouts so I can train sooner.
Take a good look at your diet - a poor diet will not help your energy or your mental health. Make sure you eat frequently quality food and don't use too much caffeine, supplement with mult b + c morning & noon and your energy should come up.
I have done a lot of reading about dietary methly doners after being ill for 30 months from a digestive disease and learned these can play a role in a variety of illnesses including yours. Ask your doc about Cerefolin www.cerefolinnac.com - a perscription vitamin that can be very helpful. At one time you could buy all the ingredients over the counter but thanks to Merk l-methlyfolate is perscription only now.
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QUOTE (TheDiesel @ Dec 6 2007, 07:26 PM)
No one but your psychiatrist will be able to answer your question.

that is the smart idea. my gf takes lithium and one night she took a xanax or a vicoden and ended up in the white room for a while. she literally went insane. i know thats diff than stimulants but it could throw you into a mania or opposite or worse.
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Posted: Dec 10 2007, 11:07 PM
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give us an update as soon as ya find out. im real curious to see what the doc says.
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well, treat the cause of depression, not its symptoms.

my friends cousin, uses sooo much zoloft in one day,
her mom is a skank (brings a new guy home everyday and tells her daughter its her new dad, WTF?)

so yea, do something about what is causing it.

i had depression too.

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Posted: Dec 10 2007, 11:32 PM
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i go through periods of depression. still havent gotten medication because my parents dont want me to use it as a crutch. which is good i guess because then i know if can take care of it all on my own. or not on my own. but without the help of drugs.

id still kind of like help with the whole situation even though its not as bad as it used to be.

yeah your best bet would to be to check with your psychiatrist

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Posted: Dec 11 2007, 02:01 PM
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Roids, is there even a slight bit of sensitivity in you? haha, geeze


Frank - any update bro? I hope things are working out for you now! I know stims aren't in your field really, but you might wanna think about the Drive + RPM stack. From what I've read in the thread in this forum, people are in a really good mood while on this stack. I'm not depressed now (just got over a stage), but I still find it very tough to get a good nights sleep (1 good night out after 30-40 bad nights sleep). Food is the key dude, if you eat clean foods that aren't full of saturated fats and cholesterol your mood should become better.

I don't think one single thing is going to help you. Like everyone has been saying, you need:

A) Clean Diet
cool.gif Cardio to keep your blood moving, plus running can take your mind off of things
C) Focus on your goals
D) Know that supplements are suppose to be add-on's not a cure-all
E) Do something that makes you happy and blast some Black Sabbath and Judas Priest before SFW. If that doesn't get you motivated I don't know what to tell you.

Either way, see a sports medicine doctor and ask him what you can be taking or doing. They are schooled and trained on this stuff for 6 or more years, I nor anyone here can top that.

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Posted: Dec 11 2007, 03:52 PM
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If your depressed are your pills really working? You would have to ask your doc to see what kind of things interact with what. I think a safe supplement to try would be fish oil. Other then that many other things can interact with your medication. Tyrosine, 5-htp , alcar are great but you wouldn't wanna combine that with your meds.

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Posted: Dec 11 2007, 11:05 PM
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PEA is suppose to affect bipolar in someway i read. cant remember if its good or bad. until i found out id avoid any burner w that in it.
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