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Posted: Jun 12 2009, 08:39 AM
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I take:

size on one scoop during SFW

novedex 2 caps at night

creatine mono 3-6g day

4-6 scoops muscle milk per day

ZMA

ADAM multi vitamin

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ephedrine sulfate with caffeine tabs (25mg eph 200mg caff) *instant shit*

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Posted: Jun 12 2009, 08:40 AM
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RPM pre-workout

Syntha-6 post workout

generic multi-vit

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Posted: Jun 12 2009, 08:45 AM
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ECYA
1,3-dimeth
PEA
Phenibut
GABA
Melatonin
5-htp
Whey (food?)
Multi (generic brand, nothin fancy)
Vit C
b6
calcium
ALCAR
AEE
Creatine mono
Flax oil
Fish oil
Taurine
b12
NAC
Milk thistle
Ginkgo
Dextrose (food?)
Ginseng
Green Tea

And probably a few others i forgot.

Not a big fan of prefabricated stacks. I like to concoct my own so i can tweek the dosages. Although this can become tedious and time consuming.

I make an Aqueous solution with the 1,3-dimeth powder.

And just for the record, i dont take all of this ED.

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Posted: Jun 12 2009, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Jun 12 2009, 08:39 AM)


novedex 2 caps at night

ATD? I have a feeling this is the reason why your Test levels are low.




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Posted: Jun 12 2009, 08:59 AM
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ATD? I have a feeling this is the reason why your Test levels are low.



for real? ohmy.gif


explain for me jay...


I was off novedex for two months, libido was sky high, felt awesome, and just started them again 3 nights ago unsure.gif
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Posted: Jun 12 2009, 09:00 AM
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Why are you taking nolvadex if you're not taking roids?


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Posted: Jun 12 2009, 09:04 AM
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Why are you taking nolvadex if you're not taking roids?



to hopefully increase endogenous test and reap the benefits from that...


bad idea??? unsure.gif


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I knew it mad.gif should've pulsed DHEA intranasally
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Posted: Jun 12 2009, 09:11 AM
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Supplements used and results: (What I most commonly use on a regular basis)

Creatine - Faster recovery time between training sessions. I take 5g three times a day usually before and after I train and at night before bed.

Beta Alanine - Faster recovery time between training sessions and better work capacity during training. I take 3g twice a day usually before and after I train.

ZMA - helps me sleep which helps provide faster recovery. Take about 45m before bed and try to have an empty stomach. Do not take with calcium.

Name Brands I trust and use consistently:
Controlled Labs Orange Triad - Multi used through out the day so it's not a one time shot and piss away deal. Also provides joint support. I take 2 three times a day. Morning/Afternoon/Evening.

Universal Real Gains - Weight Gainer with just the right amount of calories and great ingredient break down. Maltodextrin as the main carb not fructose/sucrose. Good protein mix of slow and fast digestion. Fats are MCT and from flax. Tastes great. Drink before and after I train and just before going to bed.

Name Brands I have tried and liked:
IntraXCell and SteelEdge From Athletic Edge Nutrition: Here's the final review post I had on those two.
http://forums.beyondmuscle.com/?showtopic=...40&#entry428861


Leviathan/Incarnate from Palo Alto Labs: Here's the final review post I had on those two.
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RPM from AppNut. great for a pre-workout wake me up. Like the Steeledge it really gets me moving. I'm taking about 2 right when I wake up as I train early in the morning. Don't notice to much of a difference between taking 2 or 3 but taking 4 was to much. I got all jittery.

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Posted: Jun 12 2009, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Jun 12 2009, 08:59 AM)
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ATD? I have a feeling this is the reason why your Test levels are low.



for real? ohmy.gif


explain for me jay...


I was off novedex for two months, libido was sky high, felt awesome, and just started them again 3 nights ago unsure.gif

Well, Theres a theory that prolonged use will result in muscle loss.

It binds to the AR so tightly. and its not a gear. So it blocks out the endogenous Test (or other exogenous gears) resulting in muscle loss.

Its too sketchy. for every positive thing said regarding it, theres a negative.

Im not sure where i read that it can lower test with prolonged use, so maybe im wrong.

But think about it...If it raises test, why would you have low test results? something is wrong.

You said you just started using it again, and werent using it when you were tested? So i dunno then bro.






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Posted: Jun 12 2009, 09:32 AM
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Multi
muscle milk
vitamin shoppe whey
nano vapor pre wo
Havoc- 40 mg a day
Clen - up to 120mcg
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Posted: Jun 12 2009, 09:39 AM
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I was off it for awhile before my initial blood test for testosterone... but before that I took like two caps a night for 8 weeks...


so...


that theory could very well be true Jay. ATD binds to the AR receptor? I thought it lowered aromatase by binding to the aromatase... I dunno unsure.gif


shit.... I just want to raise my test levels naturally.


nolvadex is bad for your liver...
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Posted: Jun 12 2009, 10:08 AM
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I take weight gainer by gnc
I take Melatonin every so often
I take the one got 48 more pills left
I smoke cigarettes
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QUOTE (tysonsSon @ Jun 12 2009, 10:08 AM)
I take weight gainer by gnc
I take Melatonin every so often
I take the one got 48 more pills left
I smoke poles

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Posted: Jun 12 2009, 11:04 AM
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I believe those are inta-anal 12 inch banana stacks with a McRibadrol going down the other hatch simultaneously (thats 80mg superdrol per McRibadrol)


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QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Jun 12 2009, 05:04 PM)
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I believe those are inta-anal 12 inch banana stacks with a McRibadrol going down the other hatch simultaneously (thats 80mg superdrol per McRibadrol)

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QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Jun 12 2009, 08:59 AM)
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ATD? I have a feeling this is the reason why your Test levels are low.



for real? ohmy.gif


explain for me jay...


I was off novedex for two months, libido was sky high, felt awesome, and just started them again 3 nights ago unsure.gif

ATD is recommended for a max of 8 weeks because it takes est too low to keep it there for very long. Can end up screwing up your lipids, hurting libido, etc.

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