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Can i buy some Pot from you?
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The only ones of value are 5htp and melatonin. GABA kinda works...but you need a lot to cross the BBB...and at those high doses, you get flushed. your face will tingle and you may even start breathing erratic. Phenibut is awesome. But stay away. its addictive and a bitch to kick. Ive slept 13 hours on that stuff before. The herbal route is sketchy and hit or miss for some. Valerian, Kava, skullcap, chamomille are effective for some, junk for others. Valerian needs to be standardized. only one company i know has it standardized. Kava feels almost like a mild alcohol buzz tranquil feeling. It may not make you sleepy though and it can be hepatoxic. As far as the Pharm route...The best bet is Trazodone. It knocks you the eff out quickly. And it isnt addictive. plus it has the added benefit of being an anti-depressant. Actually, its an anti-depressant with the side effect of making you sleepy. Keto was nice as josh said. I find it slightly more powerful than doxylamine. Diphenhydramine and Doxylamine stacked with melatonin is about as good as it gets OTC. Or you could just drink a beer and JO left handed. That might work GICH!! 
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Can i buy some Pot from you?
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| QUOTE (Josh47933 @ Aug 22 2009, 05:01 PM) | | The thing I don't care for w/ melatonin is sometimes it doesn't seem to kick in as far as making me sleepy |
Darkness allows melatonin to become functional while light suppresses it. So if youre sitting in front of the computer after taking some, it prob wont put you to sleep. The cool thing i read about 5htp is that the melatonin eventually produced is not light-dependant.
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DO NOT TAKE 5-HTP. Get Tryptophan instead (the shit in turkey that makes you sleepy) -- it's an amino acid and what your body naturally converts to 5HTP. Taking 5HTP directly can have adverse effects on your heart. Shit, it's illegal in the UK. If you like reading scientific journals... ScienceDirect Melatonin is an obvious sleep mode enhancer. This is great for resetting your biological sleeping clock as it can incite the sleep-stage earlier than your typical "bed time". Usually takes a couple weeks of recurrent usage at the time you "need to sleep" for it to fully reset your internal sleep timer. Grossly unscientific, but you get my point. I once worked a night shift. "Good luck" is probably your best "supplement" to be quite honest. And it doesn't come in the form of a powder, liquid or gelcap. Just make sure your sleeping area is pitch black, silent or there's constant ambience -- like a fan turned on low. You're not going to be able to sleep when you hear cars driving by or a beam of intense sunlight flickers onto your face. I'm glad there isn't a breathalyzer for lactic acid.... 
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| QUOTE (ftank @ Sep 9 2009, 03:51 PM) | | DO NOT TAKE 5-HTP. Get Tryptophan instead (the shit in turkey that makes you sleepy) |
This myth needs to die! Google it! 5-htp is superior IMO. It is one step closer to melatonin. Trytophan is many steps further and also converts to other things. It can give you energy. I hate to say this because I don't know what your circumstances are but ASAP get a new job where your working during the day. Working the graveyard shift is one of the worst things for your health and will screw your sleep cycle up to the point where I know many who have permanent problems. Certified Personal Trainer- NASM,NPTI,NSCA,APEX
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New job hours...what sleep supps work the best?
