M1T- 6xox vs Chysen and more... |
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| Posted by: Martinezelgrande Jan 21 2005, 04:02 AM |
| Ok this is long so if you want to go through this and give me advice please do, most important is the PCT question. I just started my first cycle of M1T, and I have to admit that I am exited and scared at the same time. 1. PCT Damn it PCT so hard to get this right........... I have been doing research for over a week now and it seems that most do not find 6oxo an effective PCT. Given the fact that I can not find Nolva I had asked a local retailer if they sold anything relatively close. He advised me to take Chrysin (5,7-Dihydroxyflavone, LPC).. I researched it and have come up with the following uses. • Blocks the conversion of Testosterone to Estrogen. • Eliminates problems like Gynomastia • Elevates Testosterone • Anti-Cancer properties • Contains LPC to help absorption of Chrysin Any how I was told that it has a better effect then 6xox hands down, I am using this until I get Nolvadex in canada… 2. Liver, My god please, I want to keep my liver....... I am also using Milk thisle with 15-20% Silybum, I read that this percentage (Silybum) makes or brakes the effect of the milk thistle, any one know any thing about this. FYI: I did go out on university binge drinking excursions prior to the cycle (1 week prior binge 1 night). Should I stop this cycle take Milk thistle for a month then start M1T again?. 3.Game plan, Im going to do this right or not do it at all......... Here is what I am doing if any one has advice on where I may be going wrong Drugs Per day: 10 mg M1T, 5 mg creating, Chrisen 650 mg, Milk thistle Food: Im eating well over 40000 Calories a day every 3 hours, this should be sufficient for a 6’2 guy on M1T I would assume Meal 1:4 eggs,1 cup of oats, 1 cup apple sauce, orange juice,1 tbsp of coconut oil Meal 2: weight gainer shake (1000 calories) + can of beans Meal 3: 1/2 cup of brown rice, 2 pieces of chicken, bacon , V8 drink. Meal 4: weight gainer Shake + Veggies mixed Meal 5: 250 pounds of lean GB, 85g spaghetti, 1/2 cup mix vegetables. Meal 6: 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 1 tbsp coconut oil Work out: involves no compound exercise all workouts have 4 exercises 8x4 sets.. 1. Back,2. chest,3.arms,4.rest,5 leg,6 rest, 7 rest. I guess I just want to make sure all is right because im contemplating stopping mid cycle due to worries for my health. 4. So far so good.... To any one who cares or is thinking of using M1T I will log my results but thus far I have 3 lbs in 4 days…. Not to mention uncanny endurance and good form to show for it. Thanks M1T To all the kids reading this. Im in university but im 23, this shit isnt a joke.. be serious if you take it... I am saying this because two of the vendors I went to played this stuff off like it had the sides of a suger pill.... It doesnt.... Under 20 forget it man, you know you will end up drinking.. 5. Canadian Ehh, Last question, my M1T seems to be manufactured by a Canadian supplier by the name of Andro Technologies, does any one know any thing about this M1T product. Thank in advance for reading and posting to all. |
| Posted by: GORT Jan 21 2005, 04:40 AM |
| Chrysin, otherwise known as Flavone-X, was disproved long ago. Although it does reduce estriol levels, it takes huge doses to work. Most of what you have read on the subject is pure hype from an old unsubstantiated study. It has never been proven to stimulate the HPTA and therefor is not used for PCT. Not heard of Andro Technologies before, but if it works.... I hope you mean 5 grams of creatine. Few people can out-eat me, but 250 pounds of lean GB! Damn! |
| Posted by: Martin34617 Jan 21 2005, 07:35 AM |
| Milk Thistle (Silybum mariana) Milk Thistle is also known as Holy Thistle, Lady’s Thistle, Marian Thistle, Mary Thistle, Our Lady’s Thistle, St. Mary Thistle, Silybum and Silymarin. i.e. Milk thistle = Silybum same thing. As to chrysin, as was said above, it only seems to work at high doses and even then its true positive effects are questionable. If you cannot get hold of clomid or nolvadex, try zinc at larger doses (30-40mg/day) with meals and try the Chrysin at high doses and PRAY.Another herb that you can get legally is Tribulus. Once again, these are if you really cant find Clomid/Nolvadex ... |
| Posted by: Martinezelgrande Jan 22 2005, 03:29 AM |
| Thanks for all the information all, Yeah few mistakes in there cant say that I eat 250 Lbs og GB a day... Thats like a Mcdonanalds freezer... On the serious tip though, I will stop taking chrisen and replace it with 6 oxo then, I guess the trib would help restore tes levels right? Zinc... never heard that but if it works then better safe then sorry... Would this be an appropriate PCT then (if I do not find the Nolva) - 6XoX (recommended dose) - Zinc 20/40 mg a day... Is this a good plan... Thanks again all |
| Posted by: Xclusive Jan 22 2005, 03:37 AM |
| I use 6 oxo for pct and it does work pretty good, I highly recommend 2 bottles though after your cycle at the maximum dosage of 6 pills every night before bed. gonna get hold of some nolva for the next pct though. good luck on your cycle. |
| Posted by: Cyberstorm Jan 22 2005, 12:13 PM |
| If you can find it,use Metacort,that is what I've been using(its sold here when in stock) 40000 cal diet? You will look like Eric Cartman(BEEEEEEEEEEFCAKE!!!!) |