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Posted: Apr 15 2004, 08:48 PM
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hey i was just woundering if this stack would work?


NOX2 from pinnacle , 1,4-Andro from 1fast400, and hydroxy-cut from muscle-tech.

and when should i take 1,4-Andro? and how many caps?


im 5'10" 1/2 and 151 pounds age - 15. and my body fat % is probably 10-15.



I usually wokrout 4-5 times a week

monday - chest, biceps, triceps, and shoulders.

tuseday - legs, and back

wed - off or the same as monday

thursday - chest, biceps, triceps, and shoulders.
(depends if i take wed off or not)

Friday - legs, and back.



thanks.

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Posted: Apr 15 2004, 11:04 PM
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i really need help on this topic so could someone please post a comment. thanks.
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Posted: Apr 16 2004, 01:17 AM
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I don't think NOX2 is worthwhile, and there are better fat burners than Hydroxycut, like Lipo 6 EF.

1,4-andro should be 600-1000 mg daily spread throughout 3 or more doses.

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Posted: Apr 16 2004, 01:20 AM
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when should i take the 3 doses? morning? before lunch? before workout?
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Posted: Apr 16 2004, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE (Football56 @ Apr 15 2004, 10:20 PM)
when should i take the 3 doses? morning? before lunch? before workout?

Morning, before or after your workout, and before bed

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Posted: Apr 16 2004, 08:58 AM
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First, i think all of the Nitric Oxide products are just hype,
Second there are much better, less expensive products than Hydroxycut-all muscletech stuff is over priced! Third and most importantly - YOUR FIFTEEN! You shouldnt be using any of this stuff. Especially not any type of prohormones!
Evaluate your diet - i.e. if it consists of nothing but fast food it needs to change! Maybe get a protein suppliment. Train with an EXPERIENCED person- none of us knew what the hell we were doing in a gym at 15. Then train hard & be PATIENT -your not gonna get diesel in 8 weeks!

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Posted: Apr 16 2004, 07:57 PM
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ive been personal trained i i know what im doing. and im gunna be taking protein with it i think its optimum 100%protein whey in the black jug, kinda cool jug..
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Posted: Apr 16 2004, 11:57 PM
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take before i go to bed? will that do anything?
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Posted: Apr 17 2004, 03:07 AM
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QUOTE (BIG STEVIE @ Apr 16 2004, 05:58 AM)
Third and most importantly - YOUR FIFTEEN! You shouldnt be using any of this stuff. Especially not any type of prohormones!

I didn't notice that. Agreed - you definitely should not be taking prohormones.

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Posted: Apr 17 2004, 03:08 AM
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QUOTE (Football56 @ Apr 16 2004, 04:57 PM)
ive been personal trained i i know what im doing. and im gunna be taking protein with it i think its optimum 100%protein whey in the black jug, kinda cool jug..

Your questions demonstrate that you clearly do not know what you are doing.

At 15 there is no chance that you are anywhere near your growth potential. Eat more.

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Posted: Apr 17 2004, 02:29 PM
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yea, but my friend took this stack with the 1,4 andro and the NOX2 but with no hydroxy cut.. and he said he had no side effects and recomended it me. Also with the 1,4 - Andro should I be taking it before i go to bed? or would it be better to take it at a different time? i will be taking 1 capsule right when i wake up, on empty stomach and 1 immediatly before i work out, i still dont know when to take the third one. and how much water should i be drinking and food i should be eating while on NOX2 and Andro ?

but is this a good stack?



NOX2

1,4 Andro

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Posted: Apr 17 2004, 03:09 PM
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At 15 your natural testosterone levels should be through the roof. Nutrition alone should be plenty. at 150 lbs if you consumed 300grams of protein a day, you should see significant gains.
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Posted: Apr 17 2004, 06:14 PM
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And thus the ban begins.
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Posted: Apr 18 2004, 03:46 AM
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QUOTE (Football56 @ Apr 17 2004, 11:29 AM)
yea, but my friend took this stack with the 1,4 andro and the NOX2 but with no hydroxy cut.. and he said he had no side effects and recomended it me.  Also with the 1,4 - Andro should I be taking it before i go to bed? or would it be better to take it at a different time? i will be taking 1 capsule right when i wake up, on empty stomach and 1 immediatly before i work out, i still dont know when to take the third one. and how much water should i be drinking and food i should be eating while on NOX2 and Andro ?

You aren't listening. Two people have said that would not be a good stack. You also should not be taking prohormones when you are 15. 17-19 is pretty risky as is. If you want to gain weight, eat more.

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Posted: Apr 18 2004, 12:45 PM
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you are the reason why prohormones are being banned.... mad.gif ...your fuking 15!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stay away from prohormones until AT LEAST 21!!!!!!!!!!they will ruin your body and you will have mjor side effects down the road....please trust what we say....your test levels are so fuking high right now that u dont need prohormones!!!!!!!! i'm 22 and even that may be a lil too young but i can read my body better than you from experience!!!! so in conclusion stay away from prohormones, take nitrous from syntrax...this product is better than NOX2 NO2 NO3 ETC..., take v12 from SAN and take lipo6 from nutrex.....you will thank me in the end
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Posted: Apr 19 2004, 10:09 AM
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I LOVE IT WHEN A 15 YEAR OLD SAYS I'M TRAINED. I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING. PHs ARE NO GAME, KID. YOU DONT KNOW EVERYTHING. Ive been training 16 years & i dont claim to know everything! Please anybody reading this, give mr football some tuff luv!!
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Posted: Apr 19 2004, 11:35 AM
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Ok guys settle down... biggrin.gif

I don't have any experience in using prohormones, but listen to these guys. 15 is waaaaaaaaaay too young to be getting into this kind of shit. If you want to take protein shakes...super. But for God's sake start there and leave it there for the time being. You may have been personally trained...but I imagine that was for lifting purposes...not in supplements.

One of the biggest thing that's giving our supps heat right now is because they're afraid of kids getting into this shit and not knowing what they're doing...and frankly that's what you're doing. We all may sound like assholes...and so be it...but if you came on here for help and suggestions, don't get pissed off because it's not what you want to hear. These guys are looking out for your safety and well being.

And just out of curiousity....WTF do your parents think about this!? Do they even know you are considering getting into this stuff?


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Posted: Apr 19 2004, 12:50 PM
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Hey My name is billy and I'm in third grade and I learned divsion today in school. I also talked to a girl and she was very nice. I also am going to start a M1T Cycle tomorrow after school on the play ground, 5'1" 110 lbs. I'll keep you guys posted!
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Posted: Apr 19 2004, 01:18 PM
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Good post, Skate! This kid just doesnt get it!! And, yes THIS GUY IS THE REASON SUPPLIMENTS WILL BE BANNED!!!!!!
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Posted: Apr 19 2004, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE (Big Fish @ Apr 19 2004, 12:50 PM)
Hey My name is billy and I'm in third grade and I learned divsion today in school. I also talked to a girl and she was very nice. I also am going to start a M1T Cycle tomorrow after school on the play ground, 5'1" 110 lbs. I'll keep you guys posted!

Ok...I admit...LMFAO at that!!! laugh.gif

Really though...football, stay away from that stuff for now. Hell, I had never lifted before getting into playing ball in high school and I made huge gains without taking anything at all. I put on 100bls+ in less than a year on my bench. You're young...take advantage of that for the time being.

I know you're taking a lot...and I mean a LOT of shit from the guys right now, and if you saw it from our perspective you'd understand. Getting into that shit at your age is just nuts. If you're set on taking it then there is probably nothing we can do to talk you out of it. I come on this forum for advice too, and I take suggestions to heart when I get them. It may not be what I want to hear, but so be it. At 15 there is no reason to take chances on fucking up your body for the rest of your life.

...and still LMAO at fish's comment laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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