Capping your own? Got to try it.

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Posted by: Dtr Apr 21 2004, 09:59 PM
Everyone has got to try capping thier own. For the price you just can't beat it. I can't believe how easy it is. The cap em quick is so easy to use and the price comes down quite a bit. For anyone looking to save money this is the route to go. It is clean and easy. Just capped 200 capsules of piracetam in about 15-17 minutes. Piracetam sells on the internet 30$ for 30 tables at 800 mg. I purchased the powder from 1fast for 20$ (I think) plus 8 for the capping machine and 8 for 700 gel caps. I will get 700 gel caps with 1000 mg in each for 40$.

DTR

Posted by: lovetoeat Apr 21 2004, 10:37 PM
Definitely a great way of saving money, although can get quite tiresome if you're capping multiple powders on a consistent basis.

Posted by: dsade Apr 22 2004, 02:51 AM
You will learn which ones are worth capping.

Personally, ALCAR I avoid like the plague. Green Tea is quite messy as well.

Posted by: Ommm Apr 22 2004, 03:35 AM
$8 for caps $8 for capping stuff and you need a scale ? thats $30 more.. ?

Posted by: lionel Jul 4 2004, 01:54 AM
Hi, sorry but what exactly is the capem quick thingy? Is a a machine or something like that you can buy? Also, if you buy the empty caps yourself, do you have to like shove the powder in yourself?

Posted by: Nicholas18644 Jul 4 2004, 04:39 AM
QUOTE
Hi, sorry but what exactly is the capem quick thingy? Is a a machine or something like that you can buy? Also, if you buy the empty caps yourself, do you have to like shove the powder in yourself?


Click on the link at the bottom of the page for capping supplies.

Fpot66

Posted by: dsade Jul 4 2004, 06:06 PM
Be sure you order the Tamper as well. This is a little device with "nipples" that fit into the capsules. It allows you to compress more material into the caps.

I think Mike mentioned that he was going to be carrying them soon.

Posted by: lionel Jul 5 2004, 06:45 AM
What i'm trying to ask is are these actual capping machines or just caps?

Posted by: lionel Jul 5 2004, 06:56 AM
Also, are the normal, average capsule size on the market the 0 or 00 ones?

Posted by: shpongled Jul 5 2004, 07:04 PM
00 I think

Posted by: dsade Jul 5 2004, 09:26 PM
QUOTE (lionel @ Jul 5 2004, 06:45 AM)
What i'm trying to ask is are these actual capping machines or just caps?

Yes. A Cap-m-quick is a small tray with 50 sockets. You remove the tops off of 50 capsules (00 is most common) and place them in the holes. It lines up so that you dump the material onto the tray and use a card to smooth the material, which falls into the open capsules.

The tamper then allows you to pack the material down, and add more.

When no more fits (or your desired dosage is in), you rotate these spacers which drops the tray down slightly, allowing you to replace the tops onto the capsules.


Voila - 50 capsules done. Once you get the hang of it, you can probably do 50 caps in about 10 minutes.

Posted by: Ramiro29833 Jul 6 2004, 02:10 AM
Okay, so were do you get this machine thing and how much is it.I click on the botton page and it only shows me capsule's, but I don't see this device your talking about dry.gif

Posted by: Peter19705 Jul 8 2004, 01:10 AM
any word on when the tamper will be available?

Posted by: dsade Jul 8 2004, 03:34 AM
http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=557

Posted by: shpongled Jul 8 2004, 09:32 PM
I don't think we have tampers right now. You can find them online pretty easily though.

Posted by: Brian Schmid Sep 14 2004, 11:23 AM
I was planning on making some 1-AD capsules, and would like to make each cap about 100mg or so to take throughout the day. What size cap should be used?

Thanks,
Brian

Posted by: lancelot Sep 14 2004, 03:22 PM
bulk needs to carry #1 and #3 capem quick machines and the tampers to go along with the #1 and #3 empty capsules you already carry. there are many bulk powders now that needs to be capped under 500mg and you need the #1&#3 kits to do that.

Posted by: Weightsanyway Sep 15 2004, 02:22 PM
Brian - I had the same intention too when I ordered my 1-ad pwder. If you don't have a food scale though its going to be really tough to measure out 1/16th of a tspn or whatever the 100mg equivalent would be. I ended up adding an equal amount to every cap I made then divided the total grams by the number of caps I made.

With the 00 caps, I came out with 306mgs give or take, per cap. 3 a day of these and I'm set. I would definitely recommend it, I saved @ 60% less money than I would have if I have bought a months worth of Ergopharm's at 900mgs a day...

Posted by: Joseph30024 Sep 15 2004, 03:34 PM
I was thinking about capping 6-OXO powder myself. I was thinking of making some caps with 600 mgs of powder, and some with 400mg, some with 300mg and some with 100 mg (so I would only have to take 1 cap a day while I taper down each week while PCT). What size gel caps and cap em quick machine should I get?

Also, with the Cap Em Quick, how do you know if some caps are getting more than the desired amount of powder and some less. I mean by putting 50 gelcaps in the try and putting 5gms of 6-OXO powder into the try, and you want to make 100mg caps, is it difficult to make sure that each cap actually gets 100mg and not some with more and some with less than the 100mg?

thanks

Posted by: copey Oct 3 2004, 11:51 PM
when capping and using these capping machines, do you need to weight out each individual dose per cap? or do oyu jsut fill the cap up... ?


Posted by: dsade Oct 4 2004, 01:31 AM
QUOTE (copey @ Oct 3 2004, 11:51 PM)
when capping and using these capping machines, do you need to weight out each individual dose per cap? or do oyu jsut fill the cap up... ?

Best thing I can say is to use a busines card folded lengthwise. Dump the desired weight of the compound into the open capsule, then use a smaller capsule to tamp down slightly. Add in some filler (just something that doesn't matter too much at super low dosage, like Tyrosine or Taurine), replace the top then weigh again.

Weight the cap again, subtracting the weight of the capsule (around 100mg) and the weight of the active material, and this will give you the required weight of the filler material - which you also need to multiply by 50.

This will give you around a total powder weight. Weigh this out, then it should pretty much fill all 50 caps on the Cap-m-quik at the desired dosage.

Posted by: TommyD Oct 4 2004, 06:35 AM
I made my own capper and what I do is make sure that my powder is just that...all powder and no lumps. I make enough passes to fill all the caps and then pick up the whole unit and bump it down on the table a few times. Repeat this a few more times before using the tamper. What this does is give you an almost perfectly even amount to start filling and tamping the remaining material. Takes a few minutes more but I feel I am getting the same amount per dose.

Posted by: kimboinatl Oct 4 2004, 10:52 AM
Are there ever any problems with getting more of the power into some of the caps than others? Or can you pretty much rely on an even distribution of the powder? Also, if you're putting several different powders into the same set of caps, should you mix them together first or just do each one individually?

Posted by: TommyD Oct 4 2004, 10:56 AM
I'd mix them all together. You'd be there for pretty much half your natural life trying to do each powder by itself.

Posted by: copey Oct 4 2004, 11:23 AM
how did you make your own capper?

Posted by: Saber41194 Oct 14 2004, 04:22 PM
i am steel whaiting for V caps.

my 2 cents advice:
disclamer : i am not responsible for anything.

if i had to dose ph or steroid (in bad hands is dangerous stuff) without scales i will throw a litle bit in a lot of creatine/dextrose. so if u buy 100g of PH throw then in 1kg(1000g) of creatine (shake well or this might becomme dangerous) now u have 1% powder for 1g of creatine u have 100/1000= 0.1g=100mg.
if u dont shake well and take 5g of PH u are pretty dead. this can be dangerous if powders that u mix together dont have the same density they wont mix well.

Posted by: bomb_r2 Mar 2 2005, 03:39 AM
yeah so do u measure out say 4 g and divide it into 50 pills n thats how much is into each pill/cap or do some get more than others?

Posted by: cbfull Mar 6 2005, 01:31 AM
You pretty much just pour powder onto the tray and keep scooping it around until all the capsules are filled to the top. Then you weight them all together, determine the weight of 50 capsules using the empty ones, subtract that, divide by 50 and this is your potency. If you want to reduce the potency and still use the same equipment, this is where fillers come in (and it's also why almost all capsuled supplements have these fillers. To take up volume inside the capsule to get as close to 500mg (or whatever you goal is) as possible.

To help speed up my capping process, I bought three more of the same trays so I can arrange them together and fill four at once. I haven't tried it yet, I hope it makes it easier.

Posted by: sdf42450 Mar 6 2005, 02:17 AM
QUOTE (copey @ Oct 3 2004, 10:51 PM)
when capping and using these capping machines, do you need to weight out each individual dose per cap? or do oyu jsut fill the cap up... ?

i typically pack one cap, weigh it and use that as reference for the rest. or you can just back all x grams of whatever you're capping. and then divide x by the number of caps you have and theres your dose... u can use fillers etc but the math gets a littel cumbersome if they are not the same mass/density

Posted by: bomb_r2 Mar 6 2005, 02:58 AM
so basically capping is a bitch if u want exact amounts?
as long as its around n about the same im happy

Posted by: Heimir Mar 6 2005, 08:05 PM
QUOTE (bomb_r2 @ Mar 6 2005, 02:58 AM)
so basically capping is a bitch if u want exact amounts?
as long as its around n about the same im happy


Everything that I have capped so far has been within 100 mg per capsule and I do weigh several of them.

Its pretty easy and quick.


Posted by: bomb_r2 Mar 6 2005, 08:41 PM
ahh ok
thanks everyone for the input
i think i'll give it a try