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Posted by: PT04 Apr 25 2004, 10:28 AM
Is spending the extra money on Procomplex (or any other company's brand of "Superior Protein Blends) worth it, opposed to the basic stuff?

Posted by: prolangtum Apr 25 2004, 12:12 PM
IMO, no.

Posted by: biglurch00 Apr 25 2004, 12:42 PM
I've been using O.N. 100% whey forever and think its great. It is by far the best value out there bar none. I don't think it's worth the extra money to pay for pro-complex or anyother overpriced protein. You could buy your vitamin packs and O.N. Whey for less than what you pay for something like Nitro-Tech or one of the other exp. protein powders.

Posted by: shpongled Apr 25 2004, 02:38 PM
I think it is important to get not only whey but milk or casein protein. Unfortunately that tends to be a lot more expensive

Posted by: anthony giovannone Apr 25 2004, 04:56 PM
kinda related to this I heard something about isolate versus concentrate whey:


that isolate is more expensive but better.............
and that ON 100% Whey is concentrate?


If someone can educate me I would appreciate it.

Posted by: Sleazy Apr 25 2004, 05:05 PM
Anyone tried the new Cookies and Cream flavor for the 100% Whey.. i gotta reorder soon and was wondering how this one stacks up to the other flavors. Any feedback would be great.

Posted by: David19562 Apr 25 2004, 05:58 PM
heard the flavor was terrible

Posted by: shpongled Apr 27 2004, 04:22 PM
QUOTE (anthony giovannone @ Apr 25 2004, 01:56 PM)
kinda related to this I heard something about isolate versus concentrate whey:


that isolate is more expensive but better.............
and that ON 100% Whey is concentrate?


If someone can educate me I would appreciate it.

Well isolate isn't necessarily better. It digests more easily, and it has less extras like lactose, but even whey protein concentrate is usually pretty low in these. I think WPC is suitable for most purposes, I use CFM whey protein isolate pre-workout because of the easier digestion and it mixes more easily without a blender.

Posted by: beefcake Apr 27 2004, 05:41 PM
QUOTE (shpongled @ Apr 27 2004, 04:22 PM)
Well isolate isn't necessarily better. It digests more easily, and it has less extras like lactose, but even whey protein concentrate is usually pretty low in these. I think WPC is suitable for most purposes, I use CFM whey protein isolate pre-workout because of the easier digestion and it mixes more easily without a blender.

What about whey hydrolasates? I was under the impression that these were much more easily absorbed than isolates due to being broken down much more, which would benefit more as a post-workout shake. I also thought that ON 100% Whey had concentrates, isolates, and hydrolasates, am I wrong?

Posted by: shpongled Apr 27 2004, 06:36 PM
QUOTE (beefcake @ Apr 27 2004, 02:41 PM)
QUOTE (shpongled @ Apr 27 2004, 04:22 PM)
Well isolate isn't necessarily better. It digests more easily, and it has less extras like lactose, but even whey protein concentrate is usually pretty low in these. I think WPC is suitable for most purposes, I use CFM whey protein isolate pre-workout because of the easier digestion and it mixes more easily without a blender.

What about whey hydrolasates? I was under the impression that these were much more easily absorbed than isolates due to being broken down much more, which would benefit more as a post-workout shake. I also thought that ON 100% Whey had concentrates, isolates, and hydrolasates, am I wrong?

I thought it was just concentrate, but looking at it, it also has isolate.

How much protein you absorb is not something you really need to worry about. Your body is designed to use what you give it, it doesn't make a habit of wasting stuff. The enzymes necessary to digest protein sources are plentiful in the intestine, you do not need it to be already broken down for you. The reasons to use different types of protein lie mainly in:

1) Rate of digestion/absorption

2) Ease of digestion (pre-workout, you want something that is easy on the stomch to prevent nausea, but this is not something you really need to worry about post-workout)

3) Protein quality/biological value

All whey proteins are going to have about the same biological value, regardless of what you read in the ads - the differences are not enough to pay a lot more. You should only use types other than concentrate if the concentrate is giving you upset stomach, or if you are really set on not getting the few extra grams of carbs/fat. Using them pre-workout, when you want a protein that digests as quickly and easily as possible, can also be of benefit. Post-workout, whey protein concentrate is fine.

Posted by: Slugga Apr 27 2004, 11:49 PM
I am currently using some NLarge2 and really dont see the gains that I did just using protein. When I was using just a protein and not a weightgainer I used Pro Complex and it seemed to work well. But Pro Complex is pretty expensive and was looking at maybe just getting the 100% Whey from ON. I was told that Pro Complex has beneficial supplements such as Glutamine, and it also has egg protein. Is all of the stuff in Pro Complex really worth it and it is really that beneficial?

Posted by: bak Jul 5 2004, 01:34 PM
QUOTE (shpongled @ Apr 27 2004, 04:22 PM)
QUOTE (anthony giovannone @ Apr 25 2004, 01:56 PM)
kinda related to this I heard something about isolate versus concentrate whey:


that isolate is more expensive but better.............
and that ON 100% Whey is concentrate?


If someone can educate me I would appreciate it.

Well isolate isn't necessarily better. It digests more easily, and it has less extras like lactose, but even whey protein concentrate is usually pretty low in these. I think WPC is suitable for most purposes, I use CFM whey protein isolate pre-workout because of the easier digestion and it mixes more easily without a blender.

what type of CFM whey protein do you use then?

thanks

bak

Posted by: bak Jul 5 2004, 01:38 PM
QUOTE (Slugga @ Apr 27 2004, 11:49 PM)
I am currently using some NLarge2 and really dont see the gains that I did just using protein. When I was using just a protein and not a weightgainer I used Pro Complex and it seemed to work well. But Pro Complex is pretty expensive and was looking at maybe just getting the 100% Whey from ON. I was told that Pro Complex has beneficial supplements such as Glutamine, and it also has egg protein. Is all of the stuff in Pro Complex really worth it and it is really that beneficial?

I hear alot about people saying things like this. The Glutamine, egg protein, is just something they throw out there to boost their products. Its not a sufficient amount to supplement into your diet. Just ignore that and buy what's the best bang for your buck.

bak