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Posted: Apr 25 2004, 05:58 PM
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Starting it today. I will update this on a weekly basis for 4 weeks till bottle is done.

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Age - 24
Weight 150-153
Height 5"5'
BF% unknown

Routines:
4 or 5 days of lifting hitting each muscle grp 2x a week
2 days HIIT

Diet:
Cutting
1912cal
53g fat 26%
167g carbs 30%
204g prot 44%
This is my diet 6 days a week. The 7th say (sunday) is a cheat day for me. I dont go overboard but I indulge in some pizza or a deli sandwich or mexican food.

Other sups:
Whey
E/C stack (12.5mg vas / 100mg caff) on lift days only

Current Thoughts:
Been working out seriously for 1.5yrs. I started a diet about 3 weeks ago. I have cut down to 150 and still having trouble to see good ab definition. Overall I have kept all lifts the same weight and intensity while on these lower cals. So the strenght is still there but I have lost mass as well as some visable BF%. Im kinda depressed. All my lifts have been the same, some have gone up, lifting on only 1900 cals, lost mass, still no ab definition that I want.

Going foward:
Going to apply 4 pumps of lipoderm ultra to my abdominal area and love handle area two times a day. Application times will be 2pm (before gym) and 12am (before bed). This should last me 30days according to the bottle.
I will keep my current routine rotations the same, as well as my diet.
This is a last fleeting attempt at cutting to get my midsection riped.
If this doesnt work.............imI may go off the cutting diet.
The cuts have seen on my body are far outweighed (negativley) by the overall mass I have lost. Im not happy.

Here is a starting collage pic. This is what I look like today (day1 before my 1st application):

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Posted: Apr 25 2004, 11:37 PM
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Good luck with the lipoderm. I have been on Ab-Solved and LipoDerm for the past 3 weeks and have found better results so far in absolved over lipoderm. But thats just me....I have been applying each twice a day, absolved to the stomach, love handle, regions and lipoderm to the chest, lat/under arm area. I have about 7 - 10 days left and will let you know how they go. Please, continue updating. Let me know how things go for you!!!!
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Posted: Apr 26 2004, 08:39 AM
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You may have had better results if you started with Absolved and then moved to Lipoderm once Absolved finished. A lot of people reported this as working better than using both simultaneously over at Avant.
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Posted: May 2 2004, 06:09 PM
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Thanks for that bit of info. I will have to consider trying that next time with applying absolved first then moving to lipo when thats finished!
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Posted: May 3 2004, 03:21 PM
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any updates?
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Posted: May 3 2004, 07:10 PM
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anyone have any tips to get rid of/mask the smell of lipoderm ultra? the smell is quite bothersome, and wearing an undershirt during teh summer isnt fun.
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Posted: May 4 2004, 10:24 AM
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Ok here is my 1 week update. No pics because.......no progress.
The skin seems slightly tighter. No change in appearance. No change in pinch.

Routine and diet have remained the same. Lifting 4 days a week. 2 days of HIIT and Abs. 1900cal. I been applying at noon and midnight daily. 4 squirts.
I found it best to rub in 2 squirts and let it absorb for 1min then apply the other 2.
If I throw 4 straight on me it begins to flake before it can absorb.
I have had no side effects. The smell is bothersome for about 30mins though.

Week 1 of 4, no results. I'll check back next week.

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Posted: May 9 2004, 07:33 PM
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Ive heard from some that Absolved is more effective for your abs area, and that Lipoderm Ultra is more effective for love handles.... i dont know if this is truth or myth, but if anyone has anything to add, post it up. Also, if this is true, then which would be most effective for your lower back?
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Posted: May 10 2004, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE (anthony giovannone @ May 4 2004, 10:24 AM)
Ok here is my 1 week update. No pics because.......no progress.
The skin seems slightly tighter. No change in appearance. No change in pinch.

Routine and diet have remained the same. Lifting 4 days a week. 2 days of HIIT and Abs. 1900cal. I been applying at noon and midnight daily. 4 squirts.
I found it best to rub in 2 squirts and let it absorb for 1min then apply the other 2.
If I throw 4 straight on me it begins to flake before it can absorb.
I have had no side effects. The smell is bothersome for about 30mins though.

Week 1 of 4, no results. I'll check back next week.

2nd week completed. Starting 3rd week today. Same story as above.
Im gonna finish it out and report back.

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Posted: May 10 2004, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE (and1_4ever @ May 9 2004, 07:33 PM)
Ive heard from some that Absolved is more effective for your abs area, and that Lipoderm Ultra is more effective for love handles.... i dont know if this is truth or myth, but if anyone has anything to add, post it up. Also, if this is true, then which would be most effective for your lower back?

Lipo versus Absolved depends on what kinda fat deposit is in the area. Above or under muscle. If you look at the pics you can kinda see my dilema, fat just under the skin....but above the muscle. So I went with Lipo.

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Posted: May 10 2004, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE (anthony giovannone @ May 10 2004, 08:17 AM)
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Lipo versus Absolved depends on what kinda fat deposit is in the area. Above or under muscle. If you look at the pics you can kinda see my dilema, fat just under the skin....but above the muscle. So I went with Lipo.

Sorry to bug again, but you seem pretty knowledgeable on this. Im a big newb, so how exaclt could you go about figuring out if it was below or above the muscle? Im probably asking a dumb question, but thanks for your time either way.
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Posted: May 10 2004, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE (and1_4ever @ May 10 2004, 09:14 AM)
Sorry to bug again, but you seem pretty knowledgeable on this. Im a big newb, so how exaclt could you go about figuring out if it was below or above the muscle? Im probably asking a dumb question, but thanks for your time either way.

Read this thread. This pretty much explains the difference between VAT & SAT fat and also how to tell which is which.

Ab-Solved & LipoDerm

Should help you out with your questions.

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Posted: May 10 2004, 11:41 AM
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thanks skake, I was looking for that to post up for him

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QUOTE (anthony giovannone @ May 10 2004, 11:41 AM)
thanks skake, I was looking for that to post up for him

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I'm starting to think we really need to get a pin put on these on the forum. I admit, when I was trying to find info out on them first is was hard as hell to keep everything straight.

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biggrin.gif OK, this may sound unbelievable but my mirror doesn't lie! I have used the Lipoderm Ultra for TWO days now and I notice a difference already , and not a n entirely small one either. I'm 34 and have had two kids,I'm in pretty damn good shape if I do say so (and I do) but as most Moms will tell you there are a few places you can work out till you fall over and they still look bad thanks to the kiddies. I had what we women affectionately call "pucker butt" which went down the back of my legs about half way down the thigh. It is puckering kind of tissue that really doesn't look all that great,like little indents in your skin. After two days I can barely see them anymore!! The skin is smooth and the contour of my butt and thighs is much more defined. Now don't get all psyched yet, I DO excercise. I do Pilates fairly regularly and also do weight training at the gym where I press 255lbs with my legs ,so I am doing other things as well to get things tight. But I have to say I recommend this product WHOLEHEARTEDLY! I love my body but that puckered skin was always my nemesis and no amount of working out seemed to diminish it to any great degree. For the results I have seen with my own VERY critical eyes, well I'm astounded. I have been using it on my lower abs as well I have pretty great abs but a bit of a fat lair on the lowers, I haven't seen as intense of an effect there but for that it may take a little longer. And really, it isn't the spot I'm really worried about anyway. So basically all you women out there who are on the fence about trying this out, just go for it I think you will be VERY happy with the results.I just ordered 2 more bottles for friends of mine
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Posted: Jul 10 2004, 02:45 PM
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There are both diuretics and fat loss aids in L-Ultra. The difference in two days is probably from the diuretics (so the effect would probably go away if you stopped using it). With longer use you will also get noticeable fat loss.

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Posted: Sep 5 2005, 07:20 AM
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I just started using this product and besides the awful smell what are the rubbery nodules that form when I rub it on my body? This product is really strange.
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QUOTE (Wendy78444 @ Sep 5 2005, 06:20 AM)
I just started using this product and besides the awful smell what are the rubbery nodules that form when I rub it on my body? This product is really strange.

that's the carrier the ingredients are in. don't worry about it though, it doesn't effect the efficacy of the product.
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Sorry to bug again, but you seem pretty knowledgeable on this.  Im a big newb, so how exaclt could you go about figuring out if it was below or above the muscle?  Im probably asking a dumb question, but thanks for your time either way.

Read this thread. This pretty much explains the difference between VAT & SAT fat and also how to tell which is which.

Ab-Solved & LipoDerm

Should help you out with your questions.

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I dont know which product to Order as i dont know if i have VAT or SAT Fat.
Can anyone help me out? I am Posting two current body pictures of me.

Age: 23
Weight: 99 kg
height: 190 cm
BF%: 18.5 %


I dont know which to use. Lipoderm Ultra or Absolved?
Can anyone help me out with it?

Do I have more VAT or SAT FAT?



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