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> Creatine Loading/Cycling/Servings..., Manufacturer's or your own directions?
Posted: Apr 26 2004, 11:55 PM
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Who follows manufacturers’ directions as opposed to cycling suggestions as found in research articles and training forums or vice versa?

I’m just curious about this given that this is the first time I’ll be taking creatine, SATUR8, and I’m wondering whether to take the 2 20g servings per day for 2 months as suggested by ISS, or follow a cycling method such as 20g per day over 4 5g serves for 1 week, then 5-10g maintenance for the next few weeks, followed by a couple of weeks off?
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Posted: Dec 19 2007, 04:03 AM
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You don't need to cycle, you're going to be just fine without cycling..

I've been taking creatine ester ether ( CE2 ) which I would highly encourage over any powders because it doesn't make you puff up with water weight.

Its not anything serious... it's found in common food such a salmon and tuna..


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Posted: Dec 19 2007, 09:03 AM
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I just cycled back on after almost 3 weeks without it. I stopped around the first of the month.....

I was taking it for a year plus non-stop.

Here is what i noticed WITHOUT IT.

I was using a 3 day on/1 day off schedule, working 2 muscle groups per day while i was using creatine.

I have since switched to a 2 day on/1 day off schedule. I havent used a 2on/1off in a Long time. Im going to attribute that to the sudden disuse of creatine.

I honestly believe its best application is recovery. I...Am sore as fuck! Ive never ben this sore in my life. (However, im increasing weight in almost every single compound exercise i have performed since stoping usage)

First few days sucked. i dragged ass. But my body compensated and i managed to get my energy back by the end of the week.

All i have to say is, if i experience phenomenal gains within the next week or two, im going to assume it was because of the cycling.

if i see no real gains, then i will assume that it is pointless to cycle off....perhaps pointless to even take creatine.

I know thats a pretty big statement, as creatine is a staple supp for just about every single person who lifts...from 15 year olds with 12'' guns to veteran lifters with 10+ years experience.

I have witnessed a decrease in Stamina...namely cardio. But i have made steady strength gains within this month that i can clearly not attribute to creatine.

Ive never in my life lifted the amount of weight that i have in the last 2-3 weeks. i broke personal records and almost shocked myself. When i first stopped, i saw a brief decline in overall strength/stamina. But as the days passed...I was slapping more plates on to every single exercise performed.

i dont know if this is in direct result of haulting my creatine usage.

I am not taking any different supps or PH's. I am, however eating MORE and i basically stopped a "cut" cycle i had been on. Im more in a "Lean bulk" now, as ive increased Carbs and protein.

I think it may be the extra carbs aiding my strength.

As it stands, i think creatine's most prominent application is probably cosmetic. I did look fuller in the chest/thigh region while taking it, but maybe its in my head since Pics dont reflect that.

And my cardio time (Cycling) was higher and more intense while using. Not to metion increased recovery time. Other than that, it (by itself) does NOT make you stronger in the sense that you will move more weight. At least not in my situation.

I guess it has its place.


I use a split cycle workout schedule. So, im going to dose my CEE like this:

1 gram per dose.

A.M First workout - 1 gram pre-workout/1 gram post
P.M Second workout - 1 gram pre/1 gram post

We'll see how it goes.

(Holy shit @ the Wall of text i just posted blink.gif )

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