Stallion's Progress

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Posted by: italionstallionl Jul 28 2005, 09:55 PM

Let me give a little background before i post

first of all, i wasnt planning on posting pics for a while, but i figure why the hell not. you guys are only here to help and support me, and we have grown to "know" each other somewhat well.

second, my first pics were from the beginning of september of last year (9-04) and my new pics are from tonight, when i got out of the shower. today was an off day, so no pump, no nothing

third, it is really difficult for me to even look at my old pics for any length of time. i hate the way that i look, and it has taken its toll on me emotionally, so please be considerate.....a few jokes dont bother me, i have pretty thick skin, just dont go over the top

. thanks

so heres the story:
i was in a nasty car accident where a young girl crossed the center line and hit me head on. i had to spend about a week in the hospital, then another week on my back, just laying there. i lost ALL motivation, i never wanted to do anything (i bet your thinking i got massive just laying there. wrong). i never wnated to eat, nor did i ever feel hungry, and when i did eat i would get full extrememly easily. not only did being that weight mess me up emotionally, but the dr said that when i dropped that low i messed up my thyroid, so now i suffer from hypothyroidism (bdoc2b knows what im talking about) its a tough battle to grow without putting on much fat.....but i did OK. not great....i gained a bit of fat, but im not unhappy, i will be starting my cut in about 3 weeks.

here are my stats

beginning pics
height 6'2"
weight 116 lbs (middle of the day, some food in my wee little belly)

new pics
height 6'2"
weight 200 lbs (upon waking after taking a leak)
arms 16"
waist 34"

and i am 19

Posted by: italionstallionl Jul 28 2005, 10:48 PM

me at 116

Posted by: italionstallionl Jul 28 2005, 10:50 PM

me tonight, after a shower

200

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Posted by: italionstallionl Jul 28 2005, 10:54 PM

85 lbs in about 10.5 months

Posted by: Btrice Jul 28 2005, 10:56 PM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holy shit man, you don't even look like the same dude, that is a hell of a change for less than a year. Great job, you have built a great foundation to go forward from.

Your first pics kind of remind me of the movie The Machinist. That must have sucked.

Anyways, great job bro. Let me ask you a question, one Italian to another, do you shave? Cause I have our heritage's great problem of immense body hair, but if you do to you seem to have it under control. I am attributing the lack of hair in the first pics to the hospital situation.

Posted by: italionstallionl Jul 28 2005, 11:02 PM

thanks for the compliments

i dont shave, but i imagine i might need to in the future, my dad's entire chest is hairy, and mine is growing....slowly but surely

i have a little patch in the middle of my chest, around my nips, and on my lower stomach. other than that, im not a super hairy guy, but like i said, i might need to start.

if i did decide to remove the hair i would use Veet hair removing foam. someone i know rids themself of excess hair and says that stuff works the best, just dont leave it on to long

Posted by: Btrice Jul 28 2005, 11:13 PM

Yeah I started out just like that, the hair around the nips is the worst, it will come in guaranteed. Veet works well though? I've tried the Nair for men in the past, but it made my skin so aggrivated. I think I am just going to go to the spa and get the full wax job though, but maybe the veet to maintain will be good.

How old are you?

Posted by: Travis55542 Jul 28 2005, 11:13 PM

Believe it or not a lot of women like the freakishly thin look you had before. Doesn't mean you have to like it though! Good job.

Posted by: italionstallionl Jul 28 2005, 11:14 PM

im 19

sorry, i forgot to post that in the initial background and stats post

Posted by: ShakesAllDay Jul 28 2005, 11:15 PM

Doooood! Is that seriously you in those before pics?!? Major transformtation, bro! Lookin' great! Much healthier than the starving Somolian look you had going.

Keep up the GREAT work!!!!

BTW, my fiance says... "Shave them pits!"

Posted by: italionstallionl Jul 28 2005, 11:17 PM

QUOTE (ShakesAllDay @ Jul 28 2005, 11:15 PM)

Doooood! Is that seriously you in those before pics?!? Major transformtation, bro! Lookin' great! Much healthier than the starving Somolian look you had going.

Keep up the GREAT work!!!!

BTW, my fiance says... "Shave them pits!"

lol, tell your fiance i'll think about it

thanks again

btrice-im talking to my buddy right now about the veet-he said that it works the best for him, way better than nads or nair

Posted by: Btrice Jul 28 2005, 11:17 PM

BTW I know you were joking before about looking like Stallone, but you do kinda look like a cross between young Stallone (Rocky I days) and Russel Crowe. lol

EDIT: Cool I'll pick some up at the grocery next time I go thanks!

Posted by: slaytanic Jul 28 2005, 11:23 PM

damn dude you done kicked your genetics in the balls and showed em whos boss!

thats one crazy transormation, good job!!

now im thinkin of jumping on the bandwagon and putting some b4 and after pics up

Posted by: Slayer of Souls Jul 29 2005, 01:51 AM

wow, man im speechless. You are looking fantastic!

Posted by: italionstallionl Jul 29 2005, 02:17 AM

thanks a bunch guys, took lots of hard work and a pretty much spot on diet....dont remember the last time i ate a candybar, fast food, etc....even though you cant tell my diet was that strict

Posted by: bomb_r2 Jul 29 2005, 03:25 AM

Dude...U look totally different. U look alot better and healthier. Great Job On Bulkin up. I dunno if you wanna take my advice But ive been taking chocamine And Ive went up a lil on the scale but my pants are looser. im lookin a lil more Leaner than before. I hear its great w/green tea extract. Just a thought

Posted by: Velodog2 Jul 29 2005, 04:28 AM

Very nice guy. You must feel good about yourself right now and you should. I would seal up those old pics in an envelope and stuff them away somewhere and forget about them - you have moved on.

Posted by: zomzom Jul 29 2005, 07:13 AM

A M A Z I N G !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: reptilejude Jul 29 2005, 08:55 AM

damn stallion, thats an awesome transformation. you must have really put alot of time and work into that one, keep on keeping on with that one!

Posted by: Dungbeattle3 Jul 29 2005, 09:06 AM

nice work, the first few pics you look stoned out of your mind, but other than that nice transition

Posted by: J1Q Jul 29 2005, 09:25 AM

AMAZING

Man, what a transformation!! Definately lookin lots better man, LOTS!!!!!!!!!!

Good Job

Posted by: MusicMan Jul 29 2005, 09:32 AM

Ditto on everyone's coments.

Posted by: Jake Varner Jul 29 2005, 09:59 AM

Very nice work, stallion! You should give bomber a few tips.

Posted by: Fabio laverge Jul 29 2005, 10:16 AM

oooh my god!! and I thought I made a big transformation... Great job dude!!!

Posted by: italionstallionl Jul 29 2005, 10:23 AM

Thanks a bunch guys
all of you have really helped me, keep me motivated, and provided great support. not too mention i learned alot of what i know here.

thanks again everyone

bombr-i'll check into that, i just bought a capper and green tea extract, so it could be a good addition, thanks.

Jake-i talked to bombr on AIM and we figured out he isnt growing because he isnt eating enough. he said sometimes at work he'll go like 7-8 hours or so with out any food

im just kinda disappointed i lost some of my vascularity

Posted by: Neitagor Jul 29 2005, 10:24 AM

wow bud, that's an amazing tranformation, great work and keep it up!

Posted by: tufnutz Jul 29 2005, 12:45 PM

Incredible transformation. Glad to hear that you didn't give up.

Posted by: Speedster Jul 29 2005, 01:09 PM

Holy f'n crap man!!! That is absolutely insane! Really you have done an amazing job. You obviously have much strength to be able to force yourself to transform so drastically, my compliments and admiration to you for having such determination. You have absolutely blown me away, you look beyond great, way to go man. Very inspirational. Curious.. just how much do you eat? Must be a lot of pancakes haha. Once again congrats bro

Oh and I concur.. you really should shave those pits dude

Posted by: DR X Jul 29 2005, 01:10 PM

Great job, what a transformation. I wouldn’t have believed that someone could be 6’2” and 116 lbs. You look great, keep up the good work.

Posted by: italionstallionl Jul 29 2005, 01:21 PM

thanks guys

speedster, the past couple months i have been eating about 3700-3900 cals a day

about 45% protein
35% carbs
20% fat

my next pics i will be hairless for you guys

Posted by: JennC Jul 29 2005, 01:23 PM

That's quite a transformation! Just out of curiosity, how much did you weigh before the accident? Have you been on meds for the thyroid condition?

Posted by: italionstallionl Jul 29 2005, 01:32 PM

QUOTE (JennC @ Jul 29 2005, 01:23 PM)

That's quite a transformation! Just out of curiosity, how much did you weigh before the accident? Have you been on meds for the thyroid condition?

i weighed about 160

i was taking levoxyl at 100 mg for my thyroid the entire school year up until about the end of may....i just went to the dr on wed. to get blood drawn for a check on my thyroid

the results should be back by next wed. so i guess we'll see then what happens

you might be wondering why i stopped taking it, i just finished a bottle of it and wanted to see how i could do with out it, thats pretty much it. my parents thought i should stay on it, but they figured it was my choice, so i stopped for a little while

Posted by: italionstallionl Jul 29 2005, 01:36 PM

here are pics of my car

i ended up breaking my shoulder
fractured my knee cap
got a concussion and blacked out for a few seconds

in the second pic you can see that the door got torqued out of place and the top of my car got popped out of place

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Posted by: James70262 Jul 29 2005, 01:47 PM

Stunning transformation!! Impressed! Great work

Posted by: scalato23 Jul 29 2005, 08:28 PM

Un-freakin-believable. I know it's already been said but WOW and Nice work!!

Posted by: tricky73 Jul 29 2005, 09:02 PM

really fantastic transformation dude. im fucking speechless. keep up the great work. all that in less then 1 year is simply amazing.

Posted by: CDONDICI Jul 29 2005, 10:29 PM

I had the same reaction as everyone else.

You look 300 times healthier in the second pics.

What were you stats before the crash?

Posted by: opticon Jul 29 2005, 10:53 PM

man im glad i bought a prelude instead of del sol i figured if i ever got hit or hit some one i would get fucked up bad

but to go back on topic im glad you recoverd hope the results come back well,
by the way those are some great mass gains

Posted by: italionstallionl Jul 29 2005, 11:06 PM

thanks again fellas

my stats before the accident were

6'2"
in the 160 range

i lifted before the accident, but never seriously, or for more than a few months at a time. it was more of a social thing to me, i would go with my friends and talk, and lift a little weight

now im 110% dedicated and it has become my life style

Posted by: trouble Jul 30 2005, 10:38 AM

Jaw drop time!

The only way you could have gained that mass back at that rate, with relatively low bf accumulation, was by strict dieting.

At first, I didn't understand why, until you mentioned the before accident weight.

You can easily pack on a good 25 additional lbs of muscle to look like an animal.

Did you remember my advice to doc2b about thyroid drug alternatives?

You can take dessicated raw thyroid, and use thyroid support supplements - a combination that repeatedly outperformed synthetic T4 activity.

You also should consider the addition of selenium and gugglesterones, in low doses, to your supps. They has been to help with T4-->T3 conversion, which is often the rate limiting step for thyroid hormone activity in those who have normal TSH.

You're probably going to need something to augment thyroid function, as you have been suppressing natural production while on the leveroxyl.

I also suggest you consider taking dessicated thymus (same source, Premier Labs out of NZ, has a tightly vetted and controlled herd, which meets MY paranoia checklist for viral control (BSE). 1-2 caps of each per day, first thing in the morning, with other supps before breakfast.

Your thymus probably took a hell of a beating from the long recovery time AND your dysfunctioning thyroid will be under the same brain hormone production controls, meaning if one is running on low throttle, the other may well be too.

Way to go, 'Stallion!

Posted by: italionstallionl Jul 30 2005, 11:56 AM

thanks trouble

check your pm's

Posted by: Skate Jul 30 2005, 10:49 PM

Holy fucking flap jacks, Stallion!!!

Damned impressive bro!

Posted by: muse101 Jul 31 2005, 01:23 PM

Dammmmmn, dude! Good job! The transformation went well, it looks like!

Congrats on the results!

Posted by: Martinezelgrande Aug 1 2005, 02:07 AM

Thats fucking amazing man...

I know you said your in the 3.9k call range... did you lower that or has been that the entire 10 months.

Posted by: PennStateZ Aug 1 2005, 06:06 PM

Wow. There's inspiration. What do your friends and family have to say about the transformation?

Posted by: TommyD Aug 1 2005, 06:53 PM

Congrats on the good outcome on a lot of hard work. Well done.

Posted by: italionstallionl Aug 2 2005, 12:25 AM

QUOTE (PennStateZ @ Aug 1 2005, 06:06 PM)

Wow. There's inspiration. What do your friends and family have to say about the transformation?

They are all really happy for me. My friends always "poke fun" of me....they now call me "p mania" and they are my "p maniacs"---think hulk hogan, and hulk a mania and the hulk a maniacs. that started when one of my buddies was wasted, and now everybody calls me that......the p part is because my last name is pellecchia and everyone calls me "p" as a nickname. they all love to ask me nutrition and supp questions now too.

thanks again guys, i appreciate the compliments and support

Posted by: trouble Aug 2 2005, 12:37 AM

You get everything you needed from me, 'Stallion?

Good luck and keep in touch!

Posted by: italionstallionl Aug 2 2005, 09:03 AM

Got it trouble

thanks a bunch, it was extraorninarily helpful

Posted by: Christoph22123 Aug 2 2005, 03:19 PM

WOW, way to rise up and take control. You made great gains, and over came a lot, way to go!!!!!

Posted by: TheKashi Aug 2 2005, 09:39 PM

Damn...looks like two different people. Nice fro though.

Posted by: italionstallionl Aug 3 2005, 10:40 AM

QUOTE (Martinezelgrande @ Aug 1 2005, 02:07 AM)

Thats fucking amazing man...

I know you said your in the 3.9k call range... did you lower that or has been that the entire 10 months.

i actually started at 2 k calories when i was really little---and that was putting weight on me

hard to believe, but it did. basically, i just increased as i saw fit. for instance, if i stayed the same weight for a week i would bump up my cals about 200 for the following week. by about march i was eating about 3300 cals, and am now in the 3800 range.

my plan is to drop down to about 3300 for maintenance, and run it there for a month, then drop down a few hundred more, and eventually get to 2500 and start my cut

glad you like the fro kashi

Posted by: Christopher59721 Aug 7 2005, 12:32 AM

Wow Stallion you are an inspiration to all who said it can't be done. Great job! Glad you made it back from your accident better then ever.

Posted by: Martin34617 Aug 8 2005, 06:37 AM

I only saw your post now. I must say this must be one of the most inspiring posts I have seen in quite a while. I recon if there is one person out there that can motivate about anybody who wants to get bigger, this person would be you (ok the "hardgainers"). I dunno if you have posted (somewhere here or elsewhere on fast400) how you got there (the whole thing, from what training you did to what supps you took to what your meals looked like, AS MUCH DETAIL AS YOU CAN) and if you havent, why dont you post it with links to your pictures. I recon many newbies will miss this post and it is posts like this that the kids (lol) inspired (maybe even an article?)

This would save us lots of frustration with kids that only wanna juice and do nothing else. If they could read and see what is possible they would maybe take a different route in getting there.

For best transformation I have seen on this site, I'll give you a 10/10!

Posted by: italionstallionl Aug 9 2005, 10:50 PM

thanks a bunch martin, i really appreciate it

i just posted my cut in the diet section, and i could add my bulk diet on to that along with the supps i used

Posted by: Undermind Aug 13 2005, 03:55 AM

Looking great stallion. A friend of mine at work is shaped exactly like you were except he is 5'6" I'm gonna show him to set a fire under him to train. One question what was your size before the accident.

Posted by: italionstallionl Aug 13 2005, 09:55 AM

thank UM

i was 160-170

i think i was an inch shorter too

Posted by: dtaxvoong Aug 13 2005, 11:43 AM

holy crap. Iam also almost as skinny as you were(a bit more meat,but still skinny)
you have to tell me what your doing!!

Posted by: italionstallionl Aug 14 2005, 02:29 AM

the most important thing is your diet. i pretty much had this down from day 1....but over time i learned more and revised it everytime i figured out something better. My training was basically second on the list behind diet, then supplements behind training. in the beginning i put on weight pretty quick because my natural bodyweight was a lot more than 116, but as my weight went up, so did my calories. It took me a long time to really realize how much you have to eat to grow......a lot of my friends that lift always tell me they cant get anybigger and they eat a lot, but its simple, if you arent growing, you arent eating enough

eat big + train hard = get big

i can post a sample of what my diet was toward the end of my "bulking" phase if you would like me to.

my supplements always contained the basics, i never really got fancy with anything until the end

i started out with a weightgainer-cytogainer, which was great, but moved to whey + carbs a few months after reading on here

i used myoplex deluxe, not as an MRP, but as a drink with my lunch.
i couldnt eat a whole lot of solid foods without getting totally stuffed, so i would drink something with a good amount of calories beacuse it didnt fill me up nearly as much as whole food

always used a blended protein for nighttime

i started to take creatine after a couple of months (2-3). by that time i knew that i wasnt going to stop lifting. i started with mono, didnt see much with it other than bloating and water retention. then i moved onto cee. SNS e2 matrix was great, but now i just use bulk cee. i didnt really like dymatize xpand, the pumps were great, but strength gain wasnt anything extraordinary

i took fish oil a few months after i started

always took a multi vitamin

at the end i started adding all types of nootropics and other bulk suppies that arent really necessary, just a little something extra

every single night (and i mean every night) right before i went to sleep i would eat a big PB and sugar free preserves sandwich on whole wheat bread and have a shake

i never left my dorm room without food. just incase i would be gone for longer than expected i could have a shake or a protein bar (i used tri o plex all the time during school when i was desperately trying to add weight)

i ate very, very cleanly, had lots of protein, lots of oats, and lots of whole wheat pasta, lots and lots of chicken and tuna and cottage cheese. i probably ate too much cottage cheese, because now im sick of it. i would easily eat a large tub a day, often more.

i had a meal plan at school, but cooked for myself everynight. i would go to the food court with my friends, then when they were done eating i would go make my food in the mini kitchen in the dorm.

the only thing i can really say is to get your diet down and follow it to a T. through my experience, it is by far the most important thing that you have to do in order to add size (or lose size if dieting)

post your diet in the diet section, people will be happy to help you out (hopefully, so far i havent gotten many replies

)

you have to be 110% dedicated to it, always have food on you. i rarely went more than 2 hours without eating.

good luck and hopefully that helped. but unfortunately, most of it probably wasnt any news for you....its all pretty basic stuff, you just have to trust it and be patient

Posted by: Richard Hunt Aug 14 2005, 10:55 AM

Dude, I'm thinking about printing a lifesize of your before and after pics and putting them on my wall for motivation. Thanks for sharing that with everyone!!

Posted by: trouble Aug 14 2005, 12:03 PM

Did your endrocrinologist look at your DHEA levels?

Your HPA axis (hypothalamus, pituitary, and adrenal homeostasis contrrol system) isn't working quite to normal levels.

I wonder if you might have slightly low DHEA-S, and should consider having it added to your thyroid maintenance plan, since thyroid hormone is converted from the T4 to the T3 form in the adrenal gland.

I wondered about the rounded appearance of your face at the end of your bulking period. More than just normal fat accumulation in facial tissues. Almost the classic moon face of hypothyroidism

This begs the question - did your physician alter your synthetic T4 dosage as your body mass increased?

And then he stopped it all in May. Let you run back down again...I guess to see if your own natural production was being supressed or augmented by exogenous thyroid hormone.

The only reason we know you had some T3 activity, is that were putting on moderately lean muscle mass, and this MUST have been due to your strict and diligent dieting...and lots of protein. Proving once again that higher levels of protein intake are indeed anabolic and not merely nutrients for growth (eg., certain small peptides and amino acids have metabolic regulatory function).

Hmmm....

Check with your physician on those hormone panel results.

You *may* benefit from a modest exogenous boost of DHEA. Maybe 25-50 mg perday. Not my call, nor yours - this should run by your physician for review and recommendation.

You *are* young, and normally this wouldn't be necesssary....but you clearly have HPA axis issues, so it is prudent and timely to inquire on your DHEA-S levels, to assess the possibility that you're not making enough adrenal corticosteroids.

I think physicians often overlook this possibility with young patients, assuming that only one hormone problem is present. The interconnected relationships between one hormone cascade and another are becoming more evident to researchers and practitioners alike, with each passing year of study and publication.

Just my thoughts this morning, after reading your excellent post, and thinking on your health status.

I can't speak for the rest here, but you surely are an amazement to me.

And I don't impress that easily....

Posted by: dtaxvoong Aug 15 2005, 12:19 AM

thanks for some of that info. i hope i can put 110% effort into gaining weight and someday hopefully become big one day.

Posted by: dito Jan 11 2006, 08:31 PM

Impressive Nick!

Posted by: jkeithc82 Jan 11 2006, 08:31 PM

Wow that is awesome Stallion.

Posted by: LaGueRiTaBoNiTa Jan 12 2006, 03:12 PM

Wow looks like a totally different person.Lookin good.Keep up the good work.

Posted by: Slayer of Souls Jan 12 2006, 04:53 PM

I want to see more pics bro! Lets see how you look now!

Posted by: fatguy Jan 13 2006, 10:54 AM

wow! be proud.

Posted by: italionstallionl Jan 13 2006, 05:32 PM

Thanks guys, i cant believe this thread popped up again.

here is a pic just taken

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Posted by: Slayer of Souls Jan 18 2006, 01:03 AM

Keep it up bro!

Looking better! What are your current stats?

Posted by: italionstallionl Jan 18 2006, 07:35 PM

Current stats....good question, i have no scale so i cant really guess my weight. My arms are just slightly over 16". I dunno my waist or chest, but i am starting to cut to try to get some BF off

Thanks

Posted by: Jake Varner Jan 18 2006, 09:02 PM

I had to show dito what is co-worker did so I dug it up for him.

Posted by: italionstallionl Jan 18 2006, 11:23 PM

Thanks Jake

BTW nice balls

Posted by: Jake Varner Jan 18 2006, 11:33 PM

My balls are huge.

Posted by: Jayv24 Jun 22 2008, 05:50 PM

QUOTE (italionstallionl @ Jul 28 2005, 10:48 PM)

me at 116

These Old threads are great.

Posted by: Arnoldclone Jun 22 2008, 08:01 PM

Holy shit I remember this one...This is the Aids Patient Thread!!!!

Posted by: Jayv24 Jun 22 2008, 08:42 PM

really? he must be dead by now

Posted by: willpiazza31 Jun 22 2008, 08:56 PM

Posted by: Arnoldclone Jun 23 2008, 10:27 AM

My father passed by as I was readin this post n just burst out laughing when I showed him the before pics. Sorry bro, but you make solmalia look like an obese country.

Posted by: bigbicSS Jul 1 2008, 12:51 AM

good job, bravo!

Posted by: colin.muller Jul 4 2008, 11:23 AM

I was not aware that that kind of transformation was humanly possible. I eat and eat and eat and cannot ever do that. Good work.

Posted by: fidoslim Jul 4 2008, 10:31 PM

great job keep up the good work i wonder waht you will look like in another year.