Ok, so what is your recommendation, from experience, for the best cortison inhibitor and why ? During, post or continueously ?
Thanks for the feedback.............
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| Posted by: Hardgain Aug 15 2005, 07:38 AM |
| I don't know if I am spelling cortison correctly, but you know what I mean. Ok, so what is your recommendation, from experience, for the best cortison inhibitor and why ? During, post or continueously ? Thanks for the feedback............. |
| Posted by: GuardDog Aug 15 2005, 07:52 AM |
| Lean Xtreme from Designer Supplements. You can take it anytime but has worked really well for PCT. Also, 7-Cort and Metacort from Dermabolics. |
| Posted by: Meagan42589 Aug 15 2005, 12:04 PM |
| Can regular DHEA be just as good as a cortisol blocker as Lean Xtreme. |
| Posted by: italionstallionl Aug 15 2005, 12:53 PM | ||
no, lean xtreme is far better at cortisol blocking. |
| Posted by: poison Aug 15 2005, 02:12 PM |
| I highly recommend BLAZE. Cheap and effective, and a higher dose than most. |
| Posted by: Hardgain Aug 15 2005, 05:30 PM | ||||
thank you, this helps alot, as I have been trying to distinguish which is which.
poison Posted on Aug 15 2005, 02:12 PM I highly recommend BLAZE. Cheap and effective, and a higher dose than most. Are we tallking same ingredients ? Same quality ? Who makes it ? |
| Posted by: Lawn30177 Aug 15 2005, 06:01 PM | ||
So between Lean Xtreme from Designer Supplements, 7-Cort, or Metacort, any suggestions on which is the cheapest of the three that offers the best results? |
| Posted by: poison Aug 15 2005, 06:02 PM |
| Same basic ingredient, slightly tweaked to give a longer half-life. It is made by SAN. It is 100mg per cap, not 50. I've used 3 bottles. I've never dieted while on it, but I gain mass and hardness while on it (apparently from an elevation in T3, very anabolic). |
| Posted by: Lawn30177 Aug 15 2005, 06:09 PM | ||
So you were using Blaze during a bulking cycle or how exactly? Also, where you using this in conjunction with an EC stack or any thermogenic products? |
| Posted by: Hardgain Aug 15 2005, 06:16 PM | ||||
So would you say that, since it is anabolic in nature, maybe not a good PCT product but excellent anti-cortisol ?
Lawn, I am glad to have hit on a topic that interests you but please lets keep this thread to cortisol inhibitors....  These other questions are for a different post......yours maybe? |
| Posted by: trouble Aug 15 2005, 06:27 PM |
| 7-Keto-DHEA is one of the best blockers for cortisol synthesis in adrenal cortex tissue. It is the primary active ingredient in Lean Extreme. You can also buy the compound pure, in a tablet form (cheaper). DHEA has the OPPOSITE effect. It is within the pathway for cortisol synthesis in adrenal tissue. Therefore, if you have sufficient stress induction, cortisol may be produced from exogenous DHEA (supps). Yet, it is an anabolic compound. More importantly, it can help increase muscle fiber repair, necesessary for growth, by limiting inflammation (prostanoid biosynthesis is partially regulated by corticosteroids). Other suggs that work: phosphatidylserine (PS) and Rhodiola rosea. The latter should be taken no longer than 3-4 months in a cycle, then ceased for 1 month before restarting use. |
| Posted by: sdf42450 Aug 15 2005, 06:40 PM |
| too little cortisol is not good either... |
| Posted by: Btrice Aug 15 2005, 06:44 PM | ||
I've been taking the 7-Keto like you suggested, is cortisol blocking its primary function? The reason I am asking is I'm running out, and I have been seeing great results from all the supps I've been taking but since I started them all at once, not sure if any are just not doing anything for me. |
| Posted by: Hardgain Aug 15 2005, 10:12 PM | ||||
THANK YOU !!  Good stuff, thanx for the Trouble
I get into these predicaments now and then, buy too much variety, things go well, then I don't know which ones to eliminate (or stay with).  Try to determine what it is that you are experiencing from this particular regime of supplements that pleases you , then eliminate one at a time those that do not indicate those results as a benefit . But do it one at a time with time to allow for a self diagnosis as to effect if any. Good luck |
| Posted by: David220 Aug 16 2005, 01:04 AM |
| How about Relacore or CortiSlim down at your local cvs or walmart are they not strong enough to block. |
| Posted by: RepubCarrier Aug 16 2005, 02:03 AM | ||
garbage, compared to 7-OH (oral, lean extreme) and 7-oxo (transdermal, 7Cort). |
| Posted by: Beau Aug 16 2005, 11:34 AM |
| I would suggest Phosphatidylserine (PS). Although expensive, research suggests it should reduce cortisol better than other supps. |
| Posted by: TheDiesel Aug 16 2005, 11:44 AM |
| BLAZE via SAN is a much better product than any of those mentioned. |
| Posted by: poison Aug 16 2005, 12:39 PM |
| I used Blaze while bulking, based on StrategoS (IIRC) input that Lean Extreme is good for cutting AND bulking. He said that boosting T3 is anabolic. That was my interest in it. I've put two co-workers on it since. One (55yo guy, relatively fit) lost an inch from his waist (34 to 33) without changing his normal diet. He saw no muscle gain while on it, though no loss. The other guy is taking it now. Basically it is effective, and cheaper per mg than the competing products. BTW, I also noticed some joint creakiness, or 'snap-crackle-pop' effect while on it. Indicative of low cortisol. That was at 200mg per day. |
| Posted by: _Edward_ Aug 16 2005, 02:42 PM |
| As far as I was informed, T3 was pretty catabolic, which is why most people use a mild AAS when using T3 (exogenous) for a cut. |
| Posted by: poison Aug 16 2005, 03:18 PM |
| Here is a thread I started on it: http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=12953&hl=lean+extreme |
| Posted by: trouble Aug 16 2005, 03:28 PM | ||
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| Posted by: Nigel56525 May 26 2006, 10:39 AM |
| It's quite amazing the rubbish that's posted on the internet. Let me clarify - T3 is the most potent of all thyroid homones (T1, T2, T3 and T4) - elevating T3 levels = hyperthyroidism = CATABOLISM = muscular atrophy Whoever states that T3 is anabolic is an idiot. Accordingly bodybuilders use T3 as a fat-burning agent, but it will also eat into your hard earned muscle tissue if you are not careful with correct dosing. It is essential to stack T3 (and T3 boosters) with anabolic compounds to minimize muscle loss. Moderation is key - take too much 7-Keto and watch your muscles shrink over night - you have been warned! |
| Posted by: Notyelf May 26 2006, 11:21 AM |
| Heres an important question: How do you know your cortisol levels are too high, and have you tried correcting with diet before doing something dangerous to your body? |