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Shakes, I read your training log, and I am in no way trying to be an asshole or anything but unless I missed something I dont see where that has to do with the supplements that we are talking about here. I saw that you are cutting and using creatine, AAKG and stuff like that, but I didnt see any mention of any of the stuff mentioned in this log. Did I miss something? Again, not at all trying to be an ass, but am just trying to figure out what that was about and if it had anything to do with this. Aside from that, looks like you are making some good progress.
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QUOTE (bigwasserman @ Mar 16 2007, 10:14 AM)
Shakes, I read your training log, and I am in no way trying to be an asshole or anything but unless I missed something I dont see where that has to do with the supplements that we are talking about here.  I saw that you are cutting and using creatine, AAKG and stuff like that, but I didnt see any mention of any of the stuff mentioned in this log.  Did I miss something?  Again, not at all trying to be an ass, but am just trying to figure out what that was about and if it had anything to do with this.  Aside from that, looks like you are making some good progress.

Oxyguno is the shiznit but you need to use four tabs a day and not three. I'm running two Hemagunos a day and four Oxygunos a day. I feel unbelievable and adding the Oxyguno made a big difference. Been stacking both for about a week. Already leaning out, feel hot and sweaty, look leaner. Getting tighter, grainier, pumped. I like it. Up 13 pounds since cycle started total. Eating cleaner and dropped cals by 500 to lean out a little. Noticed good mental effects from Hema but kicked in more when adding Oxy. Tons of energy and too much libido for the gf to handle, hah hah hah@! Oxyguno is a great cutter reminds of a cleaner verion of the original Halodrol 50. No sides more than the shedding that started with the Hema and a little bacne/acne. Except for libido! Have an appt with the doctor next week to have a physical so we'll see on the liver and cholesterol thing. Oxyguno seems to be the real deal. I'd say 30mg of Oxyguno &gt; 50mg Anavar but the feel is very similar.<br><br> tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif <br><br>Bolo
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Posted: Mar 20 2007, 09:09 PM
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Hemaguno reviews :

you should run 2-3 pills a days ( suggested 2 before training + 1 before bed )
It's a nice products because it seem to have almost no side effect. No water Gain, just pain in abs sometime.

1 bottle of Hemaguno should make you gain around 5-10 pounds of lean muscle. Its recommanded to get a pct even if u do not feel the side effect. Liver pill is not needed for me.You get medium strenght gains and good pump.The products is not as strong as Superdrol and M1T but it do the job because of the NO SIDE EFFECT!!!.

its product rated a 8.5/10 because of no side effect and gains, but maybe a bit stronger should be perfect. i will try the other pill of the same company ( blu one )
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Posted: Mar 20 2007, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE (Prexier64 @ Mar 20 2007, 09:09 PM)
Hemaguno reviews :

you should run 2-3 pills a days ( suggested 2 before training + 1 before bed )
It's a nice products because it seem to have almost no side effect. No water Gain, just pain in abs sometime.

1 bottle of Hemaguno should make you gain around 5-10 pounds of lean muscle. Its recommanded to get a pct even if u do not feel the side effect. Liver pill is not needed for me.You get medium strenght gains and good pump.The products is not as strong as Superdrol and M1T but it do the job because of the NO SIDE EFFECT!!!.

its product rated a 8.5/10 because of no side effect and gains, but maybe a bit stronger should be perfect. i will try the other pill of the same company ( blu one )

Can you tell us more about who you are, your trainign experience, height, weight before and after the cycle and all that? Do you think this would be good as part of a cutting cycle?
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Hemaguno reviews :

you should run 2-3 pills a days ( suggested 2 before training  + 1 before bed )
It's a nice products because it seem to have almost no side effect. No water Gain, just pain in abs sometime.

1 bottle of Hemaguno should make you gain around 5-10 pounds of lean muscle. Its recommanded to get a pct even if u do not feel the side effect. Liver pill is not needed for me.You get medium strenght gains and good pump.The products is not as strong as Superdrol and M1T but it do the job because of the NO SIDE EFFECT!!!.

its product rated a 8.5/10  because of no side effect and gains, but maybe a bit stronger should be perfect. i will try the other pill of the same company ( blu one )

Can you tell us more about who you are, your trainign experience, height, weight before and after the cycle and all that? Do you think this would be good as part of a cutting cycle?

I think that both hema and oxy both are great for cutting or recomp. i started hema and wanted to increase mass. it works for that well. i bet it would also work well as a cutter by itself. i got the bottle of oxy because the information made me think it would have less sides than just increasing the hema dose. so far so good. i am making better gains so far as i can see stacking them both with zero increase in sides other than libido. i will be dropping hema in another week and will finish up with the oxy so i can tell you what the oxy does by itself then. for now the both of them make a killer stack. we'll see about the lab tests at the docs office though. i feel great. better than ever and i am starting to get that bodybuilder look about me from the two of them. people used to ask me if i worked out and i did a local show once. but now people ask me if i am a bodybuilder because i look better. if you can afford it i highly suggest this stack. lets hope i keep all i have gotten when i come off though. it will suck if i do not.

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Posted: Mar 21 2007, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE (Bolo_Cholo @ Mar 21 2007, 12:24 AM)
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Hemaguno reviews :

you should run 2-3 pills a days ( suggested 2 before training  + 1 before bed )
It's a nice products because it seem to have almost no side effect. No water Gain, just pain in abs sometime.

1 bottle of Hemaguno should make you gain around 5-10 pounds of lean muscle. Its recommanded to get a pct even if u do not feel the side effect. Liver pill is not needed for me.You get medium strenght gains and good pump.The products is not as strong as Superdrol and M1T but it do the job because of the NO SIDE EFFECT!!!.

its product rated a 8.5/10  because of no side effect and gains, but maybe a bit stronger should be perfect. i will try the other pill of the same company ( blu one )

Can you tell us more about who you are, your trainign experience, height, weight before and after the cycle and all that? Do you think this would be good as part of a cutting cycle?

I think that both hema and oxy both are great for cutting or recomp. i started hema and wanted to increase mass. it works for that well. i bet it would also work well as a cutter by itself. i got the bottle of oxy because the information made me think it would have less sides than just increasing the hema dose. so far so good. i am making better gains so far as i can see stacking them both with zero increase in sides other than libido. i will be dropping hema in another week and will finish up with the oxy so i can tell you what the oxy does by itself then. for now the both of them make a killer stack. we'll see about the lab tests at the docs office though. i feel great. better than ever and i am starting to get that bodybuilder look about me from the two of them. people used to ask me if i worked out and i did a local show once. but now people ask me if i am a bodybuilder because i look better. if you can afford it i highly suggest this stack. lets hope i keep all i have gotten when i come off though. it will suck if i do not.

bolo

Thanks for that update. Can you tell me what your weight was before you started the Hema and where you are at now? Basically I will be looking to do the hema for 4 weeks at 2 pills a day and taking that with lipodrene. My goal is to add some lean hard muscle while cutting fat. I have a low carb/cal high protein diet and life heavy (3 sets of 8-10 reps on almmost every exercise I do) and do about 20-30 mins of cardio twice a week. I am currently at about 195lbs and about 12%bf. I would love to add 5-10 lbs but drop to around 10%. You, or anyone, think that is possible with this stack I just mentioned and the workout and diet I am going through?
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Posted: Mar 22 2007, 09:36 PM
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i weight for about 3 years, im 155 lbs. i didnt finish the bottle but i will tell you the finish reviews after.


when i started i was weighting : 155 with a bit of fat. No im on 158 and i lost fat.
at the bench i gained around 15 lbs of strenght with the products at the moment.

so : +3 lbs of muscle
-2 lbs of fat
No side effect! ( no stomach pain biggrin.gif )

26mg 1 30h before training.

im on my second week of it. ( 2 of 4 )[COLOR=red]
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Posted: Mar 23 2007, 09:42 AM
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I was actually looking for a response from Bolo on his experience and to answer my above questions. No offense, but I cant understand half of what you just said, and if you weigh 155lbs and were only able to put on 3lbs on a cycle then to me that says you dont have enough experience with stuff like this or training and diet. I am looking for responses from people that know what they are doin gin the gym, with their diet, with PCT and have or are using this product and can give me some solid feedback.
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QUOTE (bigwasserman @ Mar 23 2007, 09:42 AM)
I was actually looking for a response from Bolo on his experience and to answer my above questions. No offense, but I cant understand half of what you just said, and if you weigh 155lbs and were only able to put on 3lbs on a cycle then to me that says you dont have enough experience with stuff like this or training and diet. I am looking for responses from people that know what they are doin gin the gym, with their diet, with PCT and have or are using this product and can give me some solid feedback.

Started at 197 and I am 211.5 today. My Hema/Oxy stack is working out just fine.

Bolo

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Wow, 14.5 lbs? How long have you been on this for now? Can you tell if you have gained any bf at all or what? Sorry, but off the top of my head I dont recall what kind of diet you are on. How is your strenght gains so far? How much longer will you be taking this? And to refresh me, you are taking both of these together, correct?
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Hey Bolo, just wanted to thank you for keeping us informed. I don't know if you guys know but there is an awful lot of controversy surrounding the Oxyguno. I have been running Epistane for a week now, and planned on running Oxy along with it almost exactly the same as you are Bolo. So far there is very little feedback on this product and they are even posting questionable lab tests on some of the other boards. I am beginning to wonder about the Oxy now...

Bolo, if you could let us know how the doctor's visit goes and keep us updated on progress, it would be MUCH appreciated. I'm glad that the Oxy seems to be doing good things for you.

Thx again.
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Posted: Mar 25 2007, 12:26 PM
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i'v also seen some controversy on this product, even though its only been out like 2 weeks so there is very little info on it... but there is a log over at AM where the guy has seen zero effects in the first 8 days so that has me suspicious

Current as of 03/08
Weight: 219lbs
Height: 6'1''
Bi's: 18''
Quads: 26''
Calves: 15.5''
Waist: 35''

PR's:
Bench: 335x1
Deads: 405x3
Milit. DB Press: 100's x6
Squat: 315x5
Incline: 275x2
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QUOTE (kosmo @ Mar 25 2007, 02:03 AM)
Hey Bolo, just wanted to thank you for keeping us informed.  I don't know if you guys know but there is an awful lot of controversy surrounding the Oxyguno.  I have been running Epistane for a week now, and planned on running Oxy along with it almost exactly the same as you are Bolo.  So far there is very little feedback on this product and they are even posting questionable lab tests on some of the other boards.  I am beginning to wonder about the Oxy now...

Bolo, if you could let us know how the doctor's visit goes and keep us updated on progress, it would be MUCH appreciated.  I'm glad that the Oxy seems to be doing good things for you. 

Thx again.

went to the doc on thursday for the annual examination. should have labs this week. between hema and oxy i am up almost fifteen pounds. no clue who says its sketchy. i'm happy with the results i have gotten. it might all be from the hema but its strange that the recomp really came together for me after i added the oxy into the tank. dunno. i'm happy with both prods. when my store gets them back i will asbolutely buy a couple of both prods again to stash away. my w.o. partner uses hema alone. two yellow tabs in the morning and he is pretty happy too. he's going to add in one of the 6-brono estrogen blockers next week to give his cycle a boost up. the hemas are the real deal bros. my experience with the oxy is its the real deal too. unless all this progress i am making is just from the hema which i doubt because i felt chnged after adding the oxy into it.<br><br>don't know. will post labs when the nurse from the office sends me them. i feel terrific if that means anything to anyone. libido is up, lifts are up, weight is up, only downer is the shedding and zits on the back which are getting bad.<br><br>more info to come in the next day or two i hope. will try to answer questions best i can.<br><br>bolo biggrin.gif <br><br>
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thanx for the feedback Bolo.

My order of Oxy should arrive tomorrow and I'll stick to my plan which is pretty similar to yours. Epistane and Hema are supposed to be the same exact compound. I've been 5 days on Epi @ 20 mg a day, already up 4 pounds and looking solid. I know what you mean about feelin' good too. I'll probably bump 30 mg for a week and then throw in Oxy while tapering down the Epi. I will be following your progress closely. Just so you know, Epistane/Hemaguno are supposed to have a very strong anti-estrogen effect. If that's true than your partner definately won't need the 6B.
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Hey Bolo, just wanted to thank you for keeping us informed.  I don't know if you guys know but there is an awful lot of controversy surrounding the Oxyguno.  I have been running Epistane for a week now, and planned on running Oxy along with it almost exactly the same as you are Bolo.  So far there is very little feedback on this product and they are even posting questionable lab tests on some of the other boards.   I am beginning to wonder about the Oxy now...

Bolo, if you could let us know how the doctor's visit goes and keep us updated on progress, it would be MUCH appreciated.  I'm glad that the Oxy seems to be doing good things for you.  

Thx again.

went to the doc on thursday for the annual examination. should have labs this week. between hema and oxy i am up almost fifteen pounds. no clue who says its sketchy. i'm happy with the results i have gotten. it might all be from the hema but its strange that the recomp really came together for me after i added the oxy into the tank. dunno. i'm happy with both prods. when my store gets them back i will asbolutely buy a couple of both prods again to stash away. my w.o. partner uses hema alone. two yellow tabs in the morning and he is pretty happy too. he's going to add in one of the 6-brono estrogen blockers next week to give his cycle a boost up. the hemas are the real deal bros. my experience with the oxy is its the real deal too. unless all this progress i am making is just from the hema which i doubt because i felt chnged after adding the oxy into it.<br><br>don't know. will post labs when the nurse from the office sends me them. i feel terrific if that means anything to anyone. libido is up, lifts are up, weight is up, only downer is the shedding and zits on the back which are getting bad.<br><br>more info to come in the next day or two i hope. will try to answer questions best i can.<br><br>bolo biggrin.gif <br><br>

Have all of your gains been lean and dry? How do you think hema would work while on a cutting diet?
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QUOTE (kosmo @ Mar 25 2007, 02:03 AM)
Hey Bolo, just wanted to thank you for keeping us informed.  I don't know if you guys know but there is an awful lot of controversy surrounding the Oxyguno.  I have been running Epistane for a week now, and planned on running Oxy along with it almost exactly the same as you are Bolo.  So far there is very little feedback on this product and they are even posting questionable lab tests on some of the other boards.   I am beginning to wonder about the Oxy now...

Bolo, if you could let us know how the doctor's visit goes and keep us updated on progress, it would be MUCH appreciated.  I'm glad that the Oxy seems to be doing good things for you.  

Thx again.

went to the doc on thursday for the annual examination. should have labs this week. between hema and oxy i am up almost fifteen pounds. no clue who says its sketchy. i'm happy with the results i have gotten. it might all be from the hema but its strange that the recomp really came together for me after i added the oxy into the tank. dunno. i'm happy with both prods. when my store gets them back i will asbolutely buy a couple of both prods again to stash away. my w.o. partner uses hema alone. two yellow tabs in the morning and he is pretty happy too. he's going to add in one of the 6-brono estrogen blockers next week to give his cycle a boost up. the hemas are the real deal bros. my experience with the oxy is its the real deal too. unless all this progress i am making is just from the hema which i doubt because i felt chnged after adding the oxy into it.<br><br>don't know. will post labs when the nurse from the office sends me them. i feel terrific if that means anything to anyone. libido is up, lifts are up, weight is up, only downer is the shedding and zits on the back which are getting bad.<br><br>more info to come in the next day or two i hope. will try to answer questions best i can.<br><br>bolo biggrin.gif <br><br>

Have all of your gains been lean and dry? How do you think hema would work while on a cutting diet?

very lean and too dry. knees and shoulder joints are getting a little sore. bro, no clue if it will work for you with what you want to do. got the results from the lab back.<br><br>ALT = 44 NORMAL IS 0-40<br><br>AST = 38 NORMAL IS 0-40<br><br>GGT = 36 NORMAL IS 0-50<br><br>TOTAL CHOLESTEROL = 198 <br><br>LDL = 102 <br><br>HDL = 53<br><br>TRIGS = 43<br><br>looks pretty normal to me. a little high on the alt but the nurse told me if i took tylenol or drank a beer that this could cause it to be high. also if you eat too much protein.<br><br>i'm pretty psyched. might up the oxy to 5 per day now.<br><br>bolo<br><br>
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Lookin' good Bolo. Seems that others are starting to see some good things with the Oxy too. Most of them are running it solo at 3 or 4 a day and are saying it takes a good week or so to kick in. Seems that it may have a synergistic effect with the Hema. One guy is running six a day and his weight hasn't gone up much but he said he looks talot better in the mirror. Looks like it might be a solid cutter just like ya said. I've got some renewed faith and am looking forward to running it similar to your cycle. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE (kosmo @ Mar 27 2007, 01:40 AM)
Lookin' good Bolo.  Seems that others are starting to see some good things with the Oxy too.  Most of them are running it solo at 3 or 4 a day and are saying it takes a good week or so to kick in.  Seems that it may have a synergistic effect with the Hema.  One guy is running six a day and his weight hasn't gone up much but he said he looks talot better in the mirror.  Looks like it might be a solid cutter just like ya said.  I've got some renewed faith and am looking forward to running it similar to your cycle. biggrin.gif

im doing this more for recomp. i was gonna gain a lot of mass with the hema but decided two weeks in i wanted more of a leaner look for summer and the ladies but i am still up 15 pounds and i bet 12+ of that is muscle. today for the first time i could see that horseshoe look around my abs and my jeans are lots looser. i bet i lost closet to an inch off my waiste and abs. remember, i also gained 15 pounds too. i am a lot leaner. a lot. the best compliments i got were from a couple of women in my gym who are cardio bunnies. with the hema only they told me i was looking bigger. but with the oxy add in they now tell me its not that i look bigger but i look like a bodybuilder. i do not care if i gain any more size or if i even drop some size as long as i lean out and stay strong. tonight i did chest and tris. pr's in every lift. i got 315 on the incline for 4 reps and i have never got more than 295 before. weighted dips with a 75 pounder for sets of 15! i also managed to eek out a set of close gripped bps with 245 for 8 by myself. muscle feel full all the time and look tight. my diet is spot on though and i need to watch this cuz diet is real important. libido is getting to be a problem and the gf is on the rag this week so this sucks. i stayed at 4 oxys and 2 hemas. 213.5 on the scale tonight but people say i look like 225 or more. i need to start tanning for sure.<br><br>more to come<br><br>bolo
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