I just ordered my bottle of Hema as Im looking to add some bulk. The people who make Hemaguno say to cycle it with mass fx for a month then use a combination of isa test from isatori with novadex xt as a pct. Does anybody have any other suggestions? I have a bottle of 17-hd laying around I would like to use instead of one of those to save some dough. Any idea when I can mix that In? or what can I sub it for?

just did back and bis and i am amazed. standing barbell curls with 135 for 5 reps with a little help from a spotter for 3 more forced reps. did an extra set of wide grip chins for 12 solid reps before i even really felt anything. this is a good combination and the only thing i ever used better for strength gains was m1t back. well some of the real stuff too, lol! just saw the big fiasco on two other boards about the three companies making the epithiostain compound. bros this is obvious just viral advertising for market share. i would have bought havoc or epistane for sure if my local vitamin store carried them but they didnt and i do not feel comfortable ordering this stuff off the net. i let my emotions get the better of me and did order the oxy off the net i admit this. both products seem to be perfectly cool. i dunno bros it seems really fishy to me all this fighting. its sad these companys cant all get along. hey i like the sfr brand even if its a few coins more. the local vitamin store is carrying it so i can walk in there with cash and no hassle. know what i am saying? if they carried epistain or havoc i'd buy them too. supposedly the sfr guys have a new nonmethyl product coming out like gaspari orastan a but they will sell in america. i am going to be all over that. meanwhile the results i am getting off the sfr stuff is pretty sweet.<br><br>tomorrow is an off day so no posts for me but i am going for a monster leg day on thursday and will try for a pr on the 45 degree leg press. wish me luck. oh yeah, i am still gaining more weight than i want. i'm going to drop another coupla hundred cals a day. 216 today at the gym. i'd like to end up at 205 when this is done and be shredded for the beach. wish the gf was off the rag already! <br><br>Bolo<br><br>

Took a half day from work and went to lunch and the gym. leg day today. i did not hit any pr's but it was a killer workout and my quads are so tight I can't walk well. seeing good seperetion in the quads. i looked in the mirror in the gym before my shower and i do look more like a bodybuilder now than i did except when i did a state competition a few years ago. i'm still continuing to gain weight and was 214 on the scale before working out. gonna drop back another 500 cals and up the cardio to 1 hour x4 per week. also gonna drop from 4 to 3 oxy as i do not think i needs this much. no sides. other than shedding and bacne on the shoulders which looks terrible. serious libido increase and the gf is off the rag i hope tomorrow night!!!!!!!<br><br>bolo

Damnn, my Oxyguno order got mucked up and I gotta wait a few more days. Everybody using this is getting results now. Every update I read from you Bolo has me achin' to start this stuff. My libido is almost too outta control from the Epi right now and if the Oxy makes it worse I don't know what I'm gonna do. Luckily threre's 5 million women here in NYC!

BTW the new one from SFR is called Furaguno. If you google it you'll get some info. I was hopin' you'd go for that one too as I know I will!

ended up doing a monster shoulder workout today. pr's in the bhn press and upright rows. however today was 1st day me and the gf'er could have sex since she was on the rag and i noticed the facial was not quite what it normally is. no noticeable shrinkage per the gf. just a little light in the special sauce department. so i guess this stuff has some effects on your boys. i was thinking for awhile i would not need pct but its good that i have the stuff on hand because for sure i will use it now. just hate pinning.<br><br>nothing new to report really other than the acne on my traps and rear delts rubbed up against my tee shirt in the gym and one giant bacne zit popped and oozed through while doing bhn presses. heh heh. feeling great, look amazing, i want to start hitting the tanning bed for the acne and maybe to look a little better.<br>have that bowling ball shoulder look now and do not want to waste it.<br><br>gonna be visiting a friend most of next week and working out in kentucky so it might be a week before i post again. hope all this is helping.<br><br>bolo<br><br>

That was a very informative post. Since I've been on Epi, I've noticed that the creamy italian isn't so thick myself. But it doesn't really matter cuz after 3 rounds the other night I was still ready. Your posts are appreciated bro so if you can get any updates to us while in KY that would be cool

I am also very curious about the new furaguno that this company has coming out. It looks like it might be good to stack that with the hemaguno and/or the oxyguno to help get really lean and hard.

Well got my Oxyguno a few days ago, and also got a nasty cold! Makes me mad as hell. I'm still taking the Epistane but lowered the dosage to 20 mg a day, and yesterday felt a little better and added 2 Oxyguno pills. Can only do very light workouts cuz I feel shitty. Hopefully this will pass quickly and I can let you guys know how it goes.

Guys,
As with anything related to health, supplements, and/vitamins, you should only take as much as the directions on the side of the bottle say to take and when to take them. The reason why we have legislation to ban supplements is because people overuse them and cause deaths, injuries. For example Ephedrine: A college football player dies from using ephedrine. The news stated this and only this. It did not state however that the young man had asthma, was taking three or four pills of ephedra a day, and working out with gear on in 100 degree weather. The bottle said take one a day to help combat asthma. Here is the deal: when you first take something you get a good feeling from it, like ephedrine. After a while though your body gets used to it and that jittery feeling and well being eases up and you dont seem to notice it so much. So people try to take more to allow for themselves to have that same feeling they once had when they started it. Instead of going off it for awhile to allow your body to recoop. Since the legislation is already passed we should see hemguno/oxyguno banned and taken off the market sometime soon. However this product by following the directions would probably not kill anyone and neither would any of the other products that have been banned. Using more than what is directed can be a fatal mistake, if anything it may cause side effects that you dont want either. So to put it bluntly people using more than directed and having problems ultimately caused the government to step in and take over the supplement world. So to BOLO: Taking four oxyguno along with stacking it with Hemaguno is probably not a good idea, especially when it says to only take three of them a day if that. To the young guys in here, start with half the dosage and see if it does anything for you before moving up to the max amount, you may not even need it and will see less side effects and loses when you are finished with your cycle. And always take precautions Liver Support, PCT.

PC

hello all don,t post hardly ever i read the posts alot though alot of interesting posts ! i am a 46 year old guy about 244 pounds 6,0 tall ,, i would say i have a fairly high fat content ,, i have been working out pretty heavy for a year and 3 months now after some injurys ,, i wanna have a 300 pound bench press again and having a hard time getting there my max is 275 ,, i recently got the oxyguno and i do take some other sups ,, tribfolia , pre and post work out by n-pac ,, and protien sup ,, i have been taking the oxy for about 5 days with 2 work out days in there ,, i do feel tighter more pumped , it says on the bottle to take up to 3 pills a day ? spaced out ? i noticed some of the posts say they are taking sometimes 2 befor work out then one later that night ? was wandering what would be best for me ? any ideas or thoughts greatly appreciated i would love to lose more inches ,, but im more interested in gaining strength with some size ? thanks again

Bob, Taking 3 pills spaced throughout your day will keep your blood levels a little more even, and two before workout Might give you a slight boost during and right after. I try to evenly space my doses. Make sure to have some type of PCT ready and you may want to take some milk thistle or other liver support supplement while on cycle.. Make no mistake, you are taking a steroid. OTC but still a steroid. Hope it works for ya.

thanks kosmo i didn,t get any pct yet ,, i need to right away thanks again !

Yo Bolo, just wanted to know if you got any updates for us. I got too sick from the feckin' flu to continue. Sadly, I called it quits. I'll wait till mid summer or later to take another run at this stack.

Well I actually just purchased the Methyl-E from EST, but it is the same thing as hemaguno, so i am loking forward to seeing what kind of results I get from it. I am already a naturallylean guy, and i am also taking thyrogen X from alri with this so i am thining that at the end of the cycle I should be able to put on between 8-10 very lean lbs and loose some body fat also. So if bolo had great success with the hemaguno then I dont see why I wont have similar success with M-E.

I am also looking forward to the furaguno, and I will buy that as soon as it comes out! I plan on stacking that with the old pro-turanabol from gaspari and taking thyrotabs with it. Should be awesome!

Im smack in the middle of my Hema and I freakin love this stuff so far its really lived up to the hype and not many things ever have for me. The only side Im getting is some bad nausea at times during the day. It will last for about ten minutes and be really severe like Im about to lose it, has anybody else been having this problem?


I also havent heard much about the Fura, anyone have any info on it?