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Posted: Mar 26 2008, 11:51 AM
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is it easier to keep form doing sumo? ive been doing sumo and it just seems less complicated for me for some reason

Sumo does seem easier wrt lower back. You don't' have to bend as far over to make the lift. Sumo seems to rely on a lot of leg drive. My glutes kill after a few sets of sumo DLs.

yeah my quads usually get a good pump it and i get tight in the hammies...something about the regular dl form that i got retarded on and can't get it for some reason

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Another idea is to keep the reps low on deadlifts. If you're doing more than 8 reps then you'll probably have a greater chance of breaking form the more fatigued you get.


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Posted: Mar 26 2008, 12:52 PM
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Sumo will reduce but not eliminate the stress on the back. It transfers more into the hams/glut area.

As for reps, I never do touch n' go reps. That always seems to lead to form breaks. If I want to do reps I'll do a quick reset between each rep. I don't stand up or anything. Just reset the bar location, grip, and stance. Usually only takes a second and it's well worth it.

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Posted: Mar 26 2008, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE (Jason2459 @ Mar 26 2008, 12:52 PM)
Sumo will reduce but not eliminate the stress on the back. It transfers more into the hams/glut area.

As for reps, I never do touch n' go reps. That always seems to lead to form breaks. If I want to do reps I'll do a quick reset between each rep. I don't stand up or anything. Just reset the bar location, grip, and stance. Usually only takes a second and it's well worth it.

With my light deadlifts, I come down to where the plates are about 1/2" off the ground - never touching - and come back up. Sometimes I use 25s if I'm feeling real limber (they allow me to come down farther than 45s).

If doing lower reps, I would def. take a pause between each rep to reset.

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Posted: Mar 26 2008, 10:10 PM
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i just started deadlifts in the last few months and most I can do without being uncomfortable is 245lbs and I get huge lower back pumps and its never really sore but it gets super tight after Im done them.. i wish I had someone who knew perfect form to watch me but theres pretty much no serious lifters in this small ass town.

my biggest concern with going more then 245 is first just getting it off the ground not sure the best technique for this.

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QUOTE (miggyg @ Mar 26 2008, 10:10 PM)
my biggest concern with going more then 245 is first just getting it off the ground not sure the best technique for this.

I've heard that grunting helps. smile.gif

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I go sumo all the way. Easier on my lower back and helps shorten the lift a bit since I'm tall. Belt helps with the lower back as well.

EDIT: I agree too, most definitely feel the sumos in the ass and hammys.

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Posted: Mar 26 2008, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE (ShakesAllDay @ Mar 26 2008, 10:51 PM)
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my biggest concern with going more then 245 is first just getting it off the ground not sure the best technique for this.

I've heard that grunting helps. smile.gif

I grunt like a yeti doign squats an deads lol.

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Posted: Mar 26 2008, 11:01 PM
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my biggest concern with going more then 245 is first just getting it off the ground not sure the best technique for this.

I've heard that grunting helps. smile.gif

I grunt like a yeti doign squats an deads lol.

I don't grunt often. But, sometimes I catch myself yelling at the pullup bar on the way up.

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QUOTE (miggyg @ Mar 26 2008, 10:10 PM)
my biggest concern with going more then 245 is first just getting it off the ground not sure the best technique for this.

drop your ass, use your legs, look up to keep your back tight, stay off your toes, explode off the bottom
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QUOTE (miggyg @ Mar 26 2008, 09:10 PM)
i just started deadlifts in the last few months and most I can do without being uncomfortable is 245lbs and I get huge lower back pumps and its never really sore but it gets super tight after Im done them.. i wish I had someone who knew perfect form to watch me but theres pretty much no serious lifters in this small ass town.

my biggest concern with going more then 245 is first just getting it off the ground not sure the best technique for this.

take a video and post them up.

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QUOTE (Jason2459 @ Mar 27 2008, 05:21 AM)
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i just started deadlifts in the last few months and most I can do without being uncomfortable is 245lbs and I get huge lower back pumps and its never really sore but it gets super tight after Im done them.. i wish I had someone who knew perfect form to watch me but theres pretty much no serious lifters in this small ass town.

my biggest concern with going more then 245 is first just getting it off the ground not sure the best technique for this.

take a video and post them up.

If I can get my hands on a cam i will..

thanks thomez.. I been watching alot of Vids on pro's doing deads I think I just gotta concentrate more on my form when im doing it and ill be banging big weight in no time.


thanks guys.

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Yeah, don't rush it. Don't look around the gym to see who's watching and start piling up more weight to show off. It sounds stupid, but people do it and not even realize it (I've been guilty before).

I have no problems doing 135lb. deads in a room full of jocks. Of course, I'm bigger than all of them LOL

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I notice if i hold my breath a certain way i can tighten up my trunk/abs a lot better on the upward lift.

The tighter i keep my trunk/abs, the better my lower back feels the next day.

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thats what belts are for jayv.

i like sumo as well. deads shouldnt make u sore after a day. i rarely get sore but i've been doing them for a while and with good form. just stay with it. your deadlift numbers will go up very fast
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QUOTE (miggyg @ Mar 26 2008, 11:10 PM)
i just started deadlifts in the last few months and most I can do without being uncomfortable is 245lbs and I get huge lower back pumps and its never really sore but it gets super tight after Im done them.. i wish I had someone who knew perfect form to watch me but theres pretty much no serious lifters in this small ass town.

my biggest concern with going more then 245 is first just getting it off the ground not sure the best technique for this.

have u tried sumo miggy?

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This guys knees give me the chills

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QUOTE (Arnoldclone @ Apr 5 2008, 03:32 PM)
This guys knees give me the chills

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OMG hella yeah that's not good

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what's wrong w/ his knees?

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