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 Also-- in roughly one month-- Avant Labs will be releasing a non-sympathomimetic repartitioner-replacement for the classic E/C stack. In the meantime (if you wish to avoid my shameless product pimping), I recommend using Vasopro stacked with an EF Thermogenic like SAN's Tight of Ergopharm's ErgoLean MC, or using an EF Thermogenic stack with something that targets DA (dopamine) action...
"So next time you [PLINK=4481]see[/PLINK] the homey and his rims spin/ just know my mind is working just like them/ the rims that is..." - S. Carter
www.mindandmuscle.net
www.avantlabs.com
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 | QUOTE (prolangtum @ Feb 8 2004, 09:39 PM) | | Add some nicotine to that stack Loki outlined, and you have superb diet stack, or as the hip guys say "Ice Cold" |
While I agree with this wholeheartedly (as nicotine covers both DA & NE/NA among other pharmacokinetic effects), I don't necessarily recommend potentially-addictive substances for body-composition improvement unless all other (re: non-stringent) options have been exhausted.
Unless you are looking to get into the single digits in terms of BF %, I do not advocate nicotine use for phenotype enhancement (unless you are already a smoker and have no qualms about using supplemental nicotine in this way...).
"So next time you [PLINK=4481]see[/PLINK] the homey and his rims spin/ just know my mind is working just like them/ the rims that is..." - S. Carter
www.mindandmuscle.net
www.avantlabs.com
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 | QUOTE (dg806 @ Feb 9 2004, 07:27 PM) | | I wouldn't be too sure that they wouldn't ban it. All it would take is a few OD deaths to raise some eyebrows. |
Overdose deaths have already occured... the thing is, ephedrine is an FDA approved drug, and they seem to be a lot less likely to be demonized.
David Tolson
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 | QUOTE (Sleazy @ Feb 10 2004, 08:40 PM) | | QUOTE | | Vasopro stacked with an EF Thermogenic like SAN's Tight |
I have some SAN TIGHT left over, guess I will try this with my HCL. What would be the benefit of using an EF thermogenic with the Vasopro instead of using it with a caffeine tab as most do? |
Most EF thermos have caffeine already, usually 150-200mg per serving. Of course, Prolab's caffeine tabs are extremely cheap, but if you have some Tight, the E HCl + Tight stack is one of the best legal combos available. Another good one is E HCl + Ergolean MC.
"I don't like people who take drugs...Customs men, for example." - Mitch Miller
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 | QUOTE (Dawn Little @ Feb 20 2004, 01:49 PM) | Can anyone tell me what I am to use as a substitute for the ECA stackers I normally take, but am running low on. My husband and I work out regularly and have used and liked the ephedra results alot. So what do I do now!!!! Please put it in laymen terms so that I may understand??? Dawn. |
Another note on this, the aspirin is not really needed/desirable, although it may give a minor contribution to fat loss, it can also potentially inhibit the retention/gain of lean mass
David Tolson
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 I have a question. On my Tight bttle is says not to take more than 1 per day. This web site says no more than 3 per day. Which of these do I follow? The bottle label also states not to stack with Ephedrine. But people here are saying that stacking Tight with Ephedrine shows great results. What do I do? Jay
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