Applied Nutriceuticals Neovar: RECOMPED!

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Posted by: Vitruvian Apr 16 2008, 05:15 PM
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachments/company-promotions/20941d1208180000-neovar-has-completed-new_neovartechnical_writeup_031308-2-.doc

Anyone and everyone who has used Neovar knows it to be one of the most highly effective creatine/nutrient partitioning products on the market today.

It just got a whole lot better.


We had a number of beta testers checking a couple varieties of formulation, and most recently have had a number of forum members elsewhere testing the final product as well to help us answer some last minute questions. Info from users is beginning to trickle onto the forums slowly now, as we have just now allowed them to discuss openly. Up to this point, they were instructed to remain hush on the topic.

Besides the obvious you'll see by reviewing the above linked writeup, you guys are in for a couple very nice surprises when it comes to this product.

This product will speak for itself, both scientifically and in real world use. Look for availability within a month!!!!!!!!

Posted by: TheDiesel Apr 16 2008, 06:05 PM
Curcumin + piperine is a good addition. I haven't seen any other company add this even though its benefits have been known for awhile.

Posted by: cc-10 Apr 16 2008, 06:59 PM
new neovar??? so that means another log right? wink.gif

Posted by: Michael218532 Apr 16 2008, 07:36 PM
any samples in the near future? haven't used the old neovar but I'm trying RPM/Drive right now and so far so good

Posted by: Vitruvian Apr 18 2008, 06:14 PM
Samples are a definite possibility guys.... you can usually notice enough of a difference off a days use to know whether it works or not. It does take a few days to get the real benefits going though.

And yes.... there will be log opportunities for this one!!!!!!!! Keep your eyes peeled!

Posted by: cc-10 Apr 18 2008, 06:15 PM
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

Posted by: Michael218532 Apr 22 2008, 04:34 PM
what is the pricing going to be like for this? i thought i read somewhere it might be cheaper than the original...hoping thats true laugh.gif

Posted by: DownTown Apr 22 2008, 05:13 PM
ya i would definitly like to try this out. It just might give me that edge i need for my comp in nov.

Posted by: cc-10 Apr 22 2008, 06:11 PM
is their gonna be like a combo price of rpm/neovar stack?

Posted by: Vitruvian Apr 22 2008, 08:45 PM
QUOTE (cc-10 @ Apr 22 2008, 06:11 PM)
is their gonna be like a combo price of rpm/neovar stack?

This would be BN.com's call...... it would be a sweeeeeeeeeeet stack though.
As for Neovar's price.........I can't discuss yet.... but it will be quite pleasant wink.gif

Downtown, where you at in Indiana?

Posted by: Doogsy Apr 24 2008, 08:44 AM
When does it come on sale in the UK?

Posted by: opfor101 Apr 24 2008, 09:09 AM
i've actually had this ship to my house lol,
several months back.

since im good friends with Cellardude.

His mommy happens to throw anything with pills into the garbage.
There was also that famous garden hose incident where she washed all his powders off onto the pavement. LOL!

I kept my mouth closed though. tongue.gif

Posted by: Vitruvian Apr 29 2008, 06:32 PM
QUOTE (opfor101 @ Apr 24 2008, 09:09 AM)
i've actually had this ship to my house lol,
several months back.

since im good friends with Cellardude.

His mommy happens to throw anything with pills into the garbage.
There was also that famous garden hose incident where she washed all his powders off onto the pavement. LOL!

I kept my mouth closed though. tongue.gif

He needs to put momma in check. Cellar has been LOVING the Neovar.... and I can't blame him.

Same capsule count, more effective, LOWER price............. The newest creatine staple to replace all others.

Posted by: ANIMAL333 Apr 29 2008, 06:35 PM
QUOTE (Vitruvian @ Apr 29 2008, 06:32 PM)
QUOTE (opfor101 @ Apr 24 2008, 09:09 AM)
i've actually had this ship to my house lol,
several months back.

since im good friends with Cellardude.

His mommy happens to throw anything with pills into the garbage.
There was also that famous garden hose incident where she washed all his powders off onto the pavement. LOL!

I kept my mouth closed though. tongue.gif

He needs to put momma in check. Cellar has been LOVING the Neovar.... and I can't blame him.

Same capsule count, more effective, LOWER price............. The newest creatine staple to replace all others.

More effective? The original Neovar is effective enough! biggrin.gif


Posted by: Big_Ben Apr 30 2008, 08:10 AM
Was one of the lucky ones to get to test this stuff out, like everything I've tried from Applied....it was awesome!

Definitely the best creatine supplement I've tried. Strength, energy, and a lasting fullness that I swear lasted a few days after workouts! Even vascularity got a bump after some time on it.

Applied's getting my attention big time as one of the best companies out there, as everything they put out seems to go beyond what I think the norm is for natural supplements.



I gotta agree with Animal on this though, the original Neovar is definitely still a solid product the best CEE I've ever tried. Pumps and hardness were quite similar between the two, will Applied still offer the original Vitruvian?

Also with the original and I'm guessing the new, the amount of product you get is awesome. Freakin' pills galore!


With the gains I've made stacking Neovar, Drive, RPM I'd say prohormone supplementing is a thing of the past. Not having to worry about sides, or your liver rotting out and out of wack hormones, yet still make similar gains of strength, size, and hardness. DONE!

Posted by: Vitruvian Apr 30 2008, 06:07 PM
haha... thanks for the kind words guys.

I think the new formulation of Neovar is going to completely replace the old. I prefer it by far... but we've had a few CEE lovers out there who may wanna stock up on the old formula. I am hoping we can offer samples of this.... I am guessing 12-15 cap sample packs would work well to show anyone that this product is worthy of being a monthly purchase. Budget users could stretch it into 2 months/bottle.

Just wait until you guys see the caps and labels..... you'd think we added $5/bottle on in cost. Nope.... lower price!!

Posted by: Big_Ben May 1 2008, 01:06 PM
Damn homes, thats cool and helps out considering gas prices are up through the roof. So any extra money saved is good, can't wait to see the finished product.

12-15 pill sample packs...insane! What other companies out there dish samples and full product logs out like A.N.? None like this.

Posted by: Vitruvian May 2 2008, 03:47 PM
QUOTE (Big_Ben @ May 1 2008, 01:06 PM)
Damn homes, thats cool and helps out considering gas prices are up through the roof. So any extra money saved is good, can't wait to see the finished product.

12-15 pill sample packs...insane! What other companies out there dish samples and full product logs out like A.N.? None like this.

It's only a smart move when you know your products will back up your words. I rest easy every night knowing for a fact this is the case smile.gif

Posted by: Vitruvian May 3 2008, 10:09 AM
Back to the top

Posted by: Hat_eku May 3 2008, 02:15 PM
Are yon gonna do any tester logs?

Posted by: yeashescool May 3 2008, 02:39 PM
is it out yet?

Posted by: cc-10 May 3 2008, 04:00 PM
i was thinking the same thing ????

Posted by: Big_Ben May 5 2008, 01:43 PM
I just finished my test bottle last week so I doubt its on the shelf yet, although I'd check Applied's website.

Any word Vin?


Have you guys tried the original? I loved it, really its all I'd take for Creatine products anymore. The new one did give a few extra benefits though like extra strength, and a bit more vascularity & energy so it'll be nice once its full circle. But both's pumps/hardness were ridiculous!

Nothing like finishing preacher curls and my arms feel like there are softballs under my skin. Good god yes!

Posted by: Doogsy May 5 2008, 02:40 PM
How about a Neovar, Drive and RPM stack?

Posted by: Vitruvian May 5 2008, 06:15 PM
I am hoping within a couple weeks guys...... we have been awaiting the capsules arrival. It's taking longer to have them custom matched to our label than anticipated.

As for a stack deal... that would be BN.com's call. Feel free to let them know how you feel..... good people running the store who may take your wishes into account wink.gif

Final reformulated Neovar is virtually ready to go.... same capsule count, MUCH cooler packaging, more effective product scientifically and in use, and CHEAPER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: fidoslim May 5 2008, 07:54 PM
count me in for free samples.

Posted by: Doogsy May 6 2008, 03:51 AM
QUOTE (fidoslim @ May 6 2008, 01:54 AM)
count me in for free samples.

Me too biggrin.gif

When doesit come on sale in the UK????????

Posted by: Vitruvian May 7 2008, 08:14 PM
QUOTE (Doogsy @ May 6 2008, 03:51 AM)
QUOTE (fidoslim @ May 6 2008, 01:54 AM)
count me in for free samples.

Me too biggrin.gif

When doesit come on sale in the UK????????

I'll have to check on that one.... our distributors there would make their own timeline of sorts....

What's shipping from the U.S. cost to get to the UK?

Posted by: Big_Ben May 8 2008, 08:11 AM
QUOTE (Doogsy @ May 5 2008, 03:40 PM)
How about a Neovar, Drive and RPM stack?

No doubt, cannot wait to run a full month of all 3. Could also throw in IGF-2 and gains should be insane. As far as all 3 stacked in one price, that would be cool but probably hard to do. Since Drive/RPM is already discounted and Neovar is going to be cheaper as it is. But thats up to Bulk so it probably is possible.

I've ran Drive/RPM and NeoVar/RPM, and then just a taste of the new NeoVar/Drive/RPM maybe like 2 weeks of all 3 but when it was all together.....strength, hardness, pump were kicking beyond my expectations of what natural supplements can do. Even 2 products stacked effects are amplified, you know Applied has done their homework when stacking products only adds stronger effects = better gains.

I'd say methylated hormonal products are done. Atleast I am done with them, the gains I make with Applied's products are similar enough where its not worth the risks anymore. On top of that the gains are real, not water based and you know your body is running at full strength naturally. No risks, no wondering if you are doing more damage than good, and you feel awesome.


I have yet to try IGF-2 but considering how well the rest of the products work, its a no brainer for me.

Posted by: Vitruvian May 8 2008, 07:52 PM
I have a strange feeling neovar will be available soooon.....

Ben, I might be able to come up with an "IGF-2 solo for 3 weeks then add in Neovar" log in the near future wink.gif

Posted by: Doogsy May 9 2008, 05:18 AM
QUOTE (Vitruvian @ May 8 2008, 02:14 AM)
QUOTE (Doogsy @ May 6 2008, 03:51 AM)
QUOTE (fidoslim @ May 6 2008, 01:54 AM)
count me in for free samples.

Me too biggrin.gif

When doesit come on sale in the UK????????

I'll have to check on that one.... our distributors there would make their own timeline of sorts....

What's shipping from the U.S. cost to get to the UK?

Im not too sure i think its about $40 or something but then i have to pay income tax on the package too which is about $65 mad.gif

Posted by: Doogsy May 9 2008, 05:24 AM
QUOTE (Big_Ben @ May 8 2008, 02:11 PM)
QUOTE (Doogsy @ May 5 2008, 03:40 PM)
How about a Neovar, Drive and RPM stack?

No doubt, cannot wait to run a full month of all 3. Could also throw in IGF-2 and gains should be insane. As far as all 3 stacked in one price, that would be cool but probably hard to do. Since Drive/RPM is already discounted and Neovar is going to be cheaper as it is. But thats up to Bulk so it probably is possible.

I've ran Drive/RPM and NeoVar/RPM, and then just a taste of the new NeoVar/Drive/RPM maybe like 2 weeks of all 3 but when it was all together.....strength, hardness, pump were kicking beyond my expectations of what natural supplements can do. Even 2 products stacked effects are amplified, you know Applied has done their homework when stacking products only adds stronger effects = better gains.

I'd say methylated hormonal products are done. Atleast I am done with them, the gains I make with Applied's products are similar enough where its not worth the risks anymore. On top of that the gains are real, not water based and you know your body is running at full strength naturally. No risks, no wondering if you are doing more damage than good, and you feel awesome.


I have yet to try IGF-2 but considering how well the rest of the products work, its a no brainer for me.

Awesome! AP is by far the best supplement company out there. I can only really say that there have been 3 supplements that i would buy again: Jungle Warfare, RPM, and Leviathan.

As soon as the new Neovar hits the shelf im buying it!

Its actually amazing to look at products like these that actually work and are being sold at almost 1/4 of the price of other rubbish products by Muscletech, BSN etc

Posted by: Big_Ben May 9 2008, 07:55 AM
Good point on prices and supps that work, Doogsy.


With your top three supps, have you ran Drive yet? RPM is great for me, just mad amounts of energy to do work. But once I add Drive into the equation, my strength levels just skyrocket, and pumps get lethal. I do get some GI issues but once I get my sweet spot for dosage, its awesome. The thing that gets me is, I'm underdosing each product by a pill or 2 at both times during the day yet I'm feeling it more than anything else I've tried.

This past run bumped me up to sets of 275x10 on my bench press, which is up by 4 reps in each set. 225x10 on inclines feel like warmup sets now. The only thing thats ever made me feel the same is PheraMax, but why run that with the risks of gyno, liver/kidney damage, and lower natural Test levels?!!!

Also have you ran the original NeoVar? I've ran CEE in bulk before, but there is a major difference between the two. I've had some of the hardest pumps on both the original and new formulas. But the new stuff just seemed quicker to feel and more amplified effects.

Posted by: Doogsy May 9 2008, 10:52 AM
QUOTE (Big_Ben @ May 9 2008, 01:55 PM)
Good point on prices and supps that work, Doogsy.


With your top three supps, have you ran Drive yet? RPM is great for me, just mad amounts of energy to do work. But once I add Drive into the equation, my strength levels just skyrocket, and pumps get lethal. I do get some GI issues but once I get my sweet spot for dosage, its awesome. The thing that gets me is, I'm underdosing each product by a pill or 2 at both times during the day yet I'm feeling it more than anything else I've tried.

This past run bumped me up to sets of 275x10 on my bench press, which is up by 4 reps in each set. 225x10 on inclines feel like warmup sets now. The only thing thats ever made me feel the same is PheraMax, but why run that with the risks of gyno, liver/kidney damage, and lower natural Test levels?!!!

Also have you ran the original NeoVar? I've ran CEE in bulk before, but there is a major difference between the two. I've had some of the hardest pumps on both the original and new formulas. But the new stuff just seemed quicker to feel and more amplified effects.

Its just the RPM ive tried but as soon as i get some spare cash im ordering Drive and Neovar

Posted by: Vitruvian May 11 2008, 01:24 PM
QUOTE (Doogsy @ May 9 2008, 10:52 AM)
QUOTE (Big_Ben @ May 9 2008, 01:55 PM)
Good point on prices and supps that work, Doogsy.


With your top three supps, have you ran Drive yet?  RPM is great for me, just mad amounts of energy to do work.  But once I add Drive into the equation, my strength levels just skyrocket, and pumps get lethal.  I do get some GI issues but once I get my sweet spot for dosage, its awesome.  The thing that gets me is, I'm underdosing each product by a pill or 2 at both times during the day yet I'm feeling it more than anything else I've tried.

This past run bumped me up to sets of 275x10 on my bench press, which is up by 4 reps in each set.  225x10 on inclines feel like warmup sets now.  The only thing thats ever made me feel the same is PheraMax, but why run that with the risks of gyno, liver/kidney damage, and lower natural Test levels?!!!

Also have you ran the original NeoVar?  I've ran CEE in bulk before, but there is a major difference between the two.  I've had some of the hardest pumps on both the original and new formulas.  But the new stuff just seemed quicker to feel and more amplified effects.

Its just the RPM ive tried but as soon as i get some spare cash im ordering Drive and Neovar

Now's your chance guys...... Order soon to participate in the special promo!!!!!!!!

Posted by: fidoslim May 13 2008, 10:41 PM
sounds good if they get more in soon. what about free samples?

Posted by: ANIMAL333 May 14 2008, 12:11 AM
It's about time you guys changed the labels biggrin.gif

The new Neovar look's badass cool.gif

Posted by: Vitruvian May 14 2008, 06:05 PM
IN STOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by: Big_Ben May 15 2008, 03:58 PM
QUOTE (Doogsy @ May 9 2008, 11:52 AM)
QUOTE (Big_Ben @ May 9 2008, 01:55 PM)
Good point on prices and supps that work, Doogsy.


With your top three supps, have you ran Drive yet?  RPM is great for me, just mad amounts of energy to do work.  But once I add Drive into the equation, my strength levels just skyrocket, and pumps get lethal.  I do get some GI issues but once I get my sweet spot for dosage, its awesome.  The thing that gets me is, I'm underdosing each product by a pill or 2 at both times during the day yet I'm feeling it more than anything else I've tried.

This past run bumped me up to sets of 275x10 on my bench press, which is up by 4 reps in each set.  225x10 on inclines feel like warmup sets now.  The only thing thats ever made me feel the same is PheraMax, but why run that with the risks of gyno, liver/kidney damage, and lower natural Test levels?!!!

Also have you ran the original NeoVar?  I've ran CEE in bulk before, but there is a major difference between the two.  I've had some of the hardest pumps on both the original and new formulas.  But the new stuff just seemed quicker to feel and more amplified effects.

Its just the RPM ive tried but as soon as i get some spare cash im ordering Drive and Neovar

I foresee some decent gains of strength in your future!!! Which strength only = size! wink.gif

Posted by: Doogsy May 16 2008, 04:07 AM
I certainly hope so. Bring new intensity to these chest workouts wink.gif

Posted by: Big_Ben May 16 2008, 12:43 PM
QUOTE (Doogsy @ May 16 2008, 05:07 AM)
I certainly hope so. Bring new intensity to these chest workouts wink.gif

Yeah Buddy!!!! Light Weight!!!

Always train with intensity, get mentally pumped before a set. Know that as soon as you sit down on the bench, that you are going to own that weight. No second guesses, you are putting it up! Give it all you got!

One nice thing about RPM, that stuff gets me psyched where all I can think about is how much am I going to put up today?!!!

Posted by: Doogsy May 16 2008, 04:22 PM
Dude you need to clean out your PM box rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Vitruvian May 17 2008, 08:38 PM
QUOTE (Doogsy @ May 16 2008, 04:22 PM)
Dude you need to clean out your PM box rolleyes.gif

Get your orders in soon to have product in hand to enter!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: var May 19 2008, 12:46 AM
still waiting on the stuff i ordered last week.

Posted by: Big_Ben May 19 2008, 10:03 AM
Cleaned up bro... ohmy.gif laugh.gif

LOL, been getting alot of PM's lately! I hate how sent PM's count against you.

Posted by: Doogsy May 19 2008, 11:03 AM
QUOTE (Big_Ben @ May 19 2008, 04:03 PM)
Cleaned up bro... ohmy.gif laugh.gif

LOL, been getting alot of PM's lately! I hate how sent PM's count against you.

Cool! PM sent cool.gif

Posted by: Big_Ben May 21 2008, 03:03 PM
Received and Responded!!! Alittle R&R action! laugh.gif

Posted by: var May 23 2008, 08:21 AM
question for an AN rep: does neovar require loading like other monohydrates? what do you recommend as far as dosage/length of time?

Posted by: the bigt May 26 2008, 03:44 AM
do you still need the 50 grams of carbs with the new formula?

Posted by: Michael218532 May 26 2008, 06:32 PM
QUOTE (the bigt @ May 26 2008, 03:44 AM)
do you still need the 50 grams of carbs with the new formula?

yes

Posted by: njtom May 27 2008, 12:58 PM
just got my bottle of neovar......a few questions: does it always need to be taken with carbs, if so, how many ? should 1 dose be taken pre workout and one dose taken psot workout ? f.y.i, i am taking neovar along with drive/rpm. what are good times to take it on off days ? and help on taking neovar along with rpm and drive would be helpful.
Thanks
njtom

Posted by: Michael218532 May 27 2008, 01:53 PM
1. you should take neovar with carbs
2. i have tried taking it both pre and post workout and just postworkout, both seem to work fine. if you have a sensitive stomach maybe split up the doses but it hasn't given me any trouble taking it all at once
3. i would take it at about the same time on off days as you do on days you work out just for consistency
4. take the Drive as directed on the bottle every day, i would only take rpm on workout days or maybe take a small dose in the morning to get you going (i dont drink coffee so that is what i do)

*i'm not an AN rep, just personal experience, big ben or vitruvian might have some better info for you

Posted by: Vitruvian May 27 2008, 07:38 PM
QUOTE (Michael218532 @ May 27 2008, 01:53 PM)
1. you should take neovar with carbs
2. i have tried taking it both pre and post workout and just postworkout, both seem to work fine. if you have a sensitive stomach maybe split up the doses but it hasn't given me any trouble taking it all at once
3. i would take it at about the same time on off days as you do on days you work out just for consistency
4. take the Drive as directed on the bottle every day, i would only take rpm on workout days or maybe take a small dose in the morning to get you going (i dont drink coffee so that is what i do)

*i'm not an AN rep, just personal experience, big ben or vitruvian might have some better info for you

Michael is pretty much on it smile.gif

A couple specifics.... Always use a dose of Neovar post workout, before your recovery meal. The other daily dose.... either pre breakfast, or before whichever meal precedes your workout.

If cutting, throw a cap of Neovar in preworkout with RPM on an empty stomach.

Drive, 2 doses a day, 1 first thing in the AM on an empty stomach, the other mid afternoon or pre-workout.

Any firsther questions, let us know man!

Posted by: ANIMAL333 May 27 2008, 11:34 PM
Hey Vitruvian, could you check out my log? I've gotta a couple questions for ya biggrin.gif

Posted by: On3musta May 28 2008, 01:45 AM
yea i want to see a log asaps

Posted by: Big_Ben May 28 2008, 07:33 AM
If you guys notice some slight heartburn, you aren't eating enough carbs! wink.gif

Also be drinking a decent amount of water.

Posted by: njtom May 28 2008, 11:01 AM
thanks guys!!!

Posted by: Vitruvian Jun 5 2008, 08:51 PM
QUOTE (njtom @ May 28 2008, 11:01 AM)
thanks guys!!!

U pick some up Tom?

Posted by: fidoslim Jun 7 2008, 05:14 PM
liking new neovar so far so good.

Posted by: Big_Ben Jun 9 2008, 08:28 AM
Good to hear FidoSlim, how many days are you into it?

Posted by: fidoslim Jun 11 2008, 12:07 AM
around 10- 12 days i beleive iam stacking with white blood and blue up. will probably stack with rpm and drive down the line sometime but i still have a month supply of plasma jet also.

Posted by: Big_Ben Jun 12 2008, 01:35 PM
Cool man, I'm on day 3. I stacked Blue Up and RPM once....forgetting that Blue Up had caffeine in it as well...wow way too much.

New RPM/DRIVE/NeoVar Recomped Log my homies:

http://forums.bulknutrition.com/?showtopic=43716


Posted by: fidoslim Jun 17 2008, 01:03 AM
yea rpm and stim blue up gets you too wired.

Posted by: The Tanya Jun 17 2008, 11:57 AM
QUOTE (fidoslim @ Jun 17 2008, 01:03 AM)
yea rpm and stim blue up gets you too wired.


Every tried stacking with Drive? No stim effect, but it gets you pumped!

Posted by: Big_Ben Jun 17 2008, 01:24 PM
Week one in and already gaining with NeoVar/Drive/RPM:
http://forums.bulknutrition.com/?showtopic=43716&view=findpost&p=542519

Either the weights are getting lighter or I'm getting stronger! wink.gif

Feeling great for only a freakin' week in! Can't wait to see where next week goes up to!

Posted by: Big_Ben Jun 26 2008, 01:59 PM
Boom 3rd chest workout in, and benching what I did on PheraMax! 355x3 at the top of my pyramid! WoooHooo!

Exactly what I looked like after it was racked: biggrin.gif

Just red, not yellow!

Posted by: cc-10 Jun 27 2008, 03:49 PM
lol

ive been taking 3-4 caps of rpm w/ no xplode usually 2-3 scoops for preworkout

Posted by: Vitruvian Jun 28 2008, 08:48 AM
QUOTE (cc-10 @ Jun 27 2008, 03:49 PM)
lol

ive been taking 3-4 caps of rpm w/ no xplode usually 2-3 scoops for preworkout

That is nuts man!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Waves Jun 28 2008, 02:39 PM
i would love to try dis new creatine but im on Green Magnitude...can i still stack both the new Neovar and Green Mag ?

Posted by: TheDiesel Jun 28 2008, 02:45 PM
QUOTE (Vitruvian @ Jun 28 2008, 08:48 AM)
QUOTE (cc-10 @ Jun 27 2008, 03:49 PM)
lol

ive been taking 3-4 caps of rpm w/ no xplode usually 2-3 scoops for preworkout

That is nuts man!!!!!!!!!!

Vitruvian,

I'd buy your stuff but I'm not a fan of icariin (too estrogenic). I'd be more interested if you came out with a product containing ruizgenin, turkesterone, kanna, or a good neurtropic (did you know that curcumin and piperine are MAOB inhibitors? using them with PEA would be nice). Naringenin is also a MAOB inhibitor. ALCAR + Aniracetam + Huperzine would also be a badass nootropic.


Posted by: cc-10 Jun 28 2008, 09:14 PM
QUOTE (Vitruvian @ Jun 28 2008, 09:48 AM)
QUOTE (cc-10 @ Jun 27 2008, 03:49 PM)
lol

ive been taking 3-4 caps of rpm w/ no xplode usually 2-3 scoops for preworkout

That is nuts man!!!!!!!!!!

yeah i guess i have a high tolerance or something today im going 3 scoops and 4 rpm's ...but i do get some great lifts in

Posted by: Cdubya Jun 29 2008, 07:52 PM
I just dished out the money for neovar even though I really didn't have extra money for it....it better be good!! wink.gif Wanted to stack it with drive but just too expensive...hopefully in the future I can stack the both..

Posted by: var Jul 1 2008, 05:10 PM
vitruvian! empty your pm box please tongue.gif

Posted by: Vitruvian Jul 2 2008, 07:40 PM
Room has been made, brutha