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| Posted by: TheRhino22 May 5 2008, 11:46 AM |
| Looking for the Best Fat Burner out there. I got told about amp and i was on and off using that for the last 2 year's. The product worked wonder's, but the last 2 bottles now have had a bad side affect on me. I will fall asleep for exactly 1 hour 1/2 - 1 sleep cylce, wake up and then can't fall back asleep. I had to stop using amp both times because of this. Alot of people have been telling me about Hot Rox, but i've read some really good and really bad reviews, same for Man Sorch and S.A.N Tight.... Could anyone give me some idea's here, maybe taken this or not, or if there's better out there i'm not getting from word of mouth. My goal is to kill the stomach fat, front and side's, I'm 5'5 about 165, looking to get down to about 8-10% body fat and get the summer 6 pack back. I do cardio 3-4 times a week. I also use Gold Standard Whey Bannanna Cream and was possibly looking to start a storm/shock therapy cycle soon, as i thought my regular cell-tech would have to much sugar and just counteract with the fat burner. |
| Posted by: AdamGrossman May 5 2008, 12:46 PM |
| Try an ECA stack (ephedrine, caffeine, aspirin). No doubts in anyone's mind that it burns fat like a mofugga. |
| Posted by: alexoc949 May 5 2008, 03:27 PM |
| yes to the eca and maybe try some melatonin 30 minutes before bed |
| Posted by: TheRhino22 May 5 2008, 03:29 PM |
| Melatonin is exactly what i took when i have having problem's with the amp, but i read some bad things about it, so i was trying to refrain from both... How does the ECA stack work, any post on it? And does the amounts of caffeine make a hard time sleeping? |
| Posted by: alexoc949 May 5 2008, 03:41 PM |
| it can mess with your sleep depending on the individual. The best thing to do is ramp up your dosage as your body adjusts to the side effects. I'm doing eca right now, and taking melatonin which helps me get to sleep. I don't think i necessarily need it, but i get deeper sleep. You can try benadryl maybe for sleep. you'll have less problems with eca if you start off with low dosage to gauge your tolerance. the tolerance for it should continue to improve every couple days depending on the person |
| Posted by: AdamGrossman May 5 2008, 03:44 PM |
| What bad things did you hear about melatonin? |
| Posted by: TheDiesel May 5 2008, 04:02 PM |
| Melatonin blunts LH, but this doesn't affect testosterone levels for whatever reason. Probably has something to do with its GH potentiating mechanism in the brain. If you search through pubmed, you'll notice that GABA-B receptors can increase LH amplitude and frequency - which makes sense considering its other downstream mechanisms (it is metabotrophic, afterall). It gets a little complicated after that. But no, I don't think melatonin ingestion is bad, IMO. |
| Posted by: DownTown May 5 2008, 04:43 PM |
| Ya im going to have to pimp the Lipo 6X, it worked for me but i have a pretty clean diet too, and most people dont eat like me. I started off at like 180 or 185lbs and a 34 inch waste, and ended at 180lbs with a 31 inch waste, and pretty vascular. Check into it if it seems like an option for you. |
| Posted by: TheRhino22 May 5 2008, 04:46 PM |
| I just read up on it alot, said it could become very addictive, and there was little to no research on it, espeicially long term affects, there was also many times i took it and felt like i never went to bed at all. I tried Lipo6, worked ok for me but amp was better, May go down the road again if the other supplements i listed are no good to use. |
| Posted by: john123131 May 6 2008, 10:33 AM |
| alot of people have had great success with Leviathan Reloaded, worth taking alook at |
| Posted by: Dexterium May 6 2008, 10:50 AM |
| Leviathan Reloaded USPLabs Recreate Designer Supplements Lean Xtreme I believe these to be the best fat burners on the market. |
| Posted by: john123131 May 6 2008, 10:57 AM | ||
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| Posted by: MHP-Stan May 7 2008, 11:24 AM |
| try out MHP's Dren or Anadrox Pump n Burn. Dren is our newer product that has been very popular. Gives great energy and dosage is only 1 capsule per day! 1 box = 1 month. Anadrox is a fatburner/n.o. product that helps with weight loss but also helps with vasodilation as well. It great for people looking for that veiny look but have the same results when it comes to weight loss. www.getmhp.com |
| Posted by: TheRhino22 May 7 2008, 11:31 AM |
| I will absolutly be taking a look at those 5 product's.... I appreciate all the help from everyone. |
| Posted by: TheDiesel May 7 2008, 12:00 PM | ||
Are you refering to melatonin? |
| Posted by: TheDiesel May 7 2008, 12:01 PM | ||
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| Posted by: TheRhino22 May 7 2008, 12:02 PM |
| No, i'm referring to the 5 fat burner's that have been listed... what would work best with a storm/shock therpay stack, I think, i'm going to go with either the reloaded or recreate?? |
| Posted by: TheDiesel May 7 2008, 01:55 PM |
| I would suggest SAN's Tight Xtreme (new product) or Ergopharm's Amp v.2. |
| Posted by: TheRhino22 May 8 2008, 11:08 AM |
| My orginial post stated i was trying to get away from amp and i've read very mixed feeling about SAN tight - more negative then posistive for that matter. |
| Posted by: TheDiesel May 8 2008, 11:09 AM | ||
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| Posted by: Dexterium May 9 2008, 08:08 AM | ||
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| Posted by: var May 9 2008, 08:23 AM |
| stimerex es original formula is hands down the best, but because of the ephedrine good luck finding the real deal these days. it is still stocked some places though. as far as legal thermogenics, leviathan reloaded and vpx redline are both good. redline's success is due probably to the yohimbine. |
| Posted by: jen0608 May 9 2008, 08:36 AM |
| Why not try to used the natural way...exercise a day...have an sports which can burn your fats...just like tennis and basketball...That's what I've did... |
| Posted by: ShakesAllDay May 9 2008, 09:06 AM | ||||||
Made by Palo Alto. Pimped by a Palo Alto rep.
Made by USP. Pimped by a USP rep.
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| Posted by: john123131 May 9 2008, 09:46 AM | ||||||||
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| Posted by: ShakesAllDay May 9 2008, 09:49 AM | ||
Just the opposite, my friend. You should give us a break. I see past the product pimping (and cross-company pimping). But, some don't. That's where I come in.  BTW, nothing personal... you are just doing your 'job'. Is it a coincidence that almost every company rep is using some other companies supplement and it's the best thing they have ever tried? When do I get a pat on the back? |
| Posted by: john123131 May 9 2008, 09:53 AM | ||||
haha..having a bad day big guy?...mad about something?.. doing my "job"...funny, dude I tell people what I like, and what I dont like, but like I previously said, believe what you like. I did it before I was a rep, and will do it long after im not a rep anymore. I really dont feel like e-arguing with you....keep on saving the world from evil pimp reps....kay |
| Posted by: ShakesAllDay May 9 2008, 10:32 AM | ||||||
I see no personal slandering or otherwise ill remarks that I have made. Why would you think I'm having a bad day? Sticking up for the ignorant isn't always a bad thing. Why are you taking this so personal? Did it hit home? edit: btw, it's not like I sought out this thread just to put in my $.02. I usually only stick to the threads that pop up when I click "New Posts". This happened to be one of them.  |
| Posted by: TheDiesel May 9 2008, 07:41 PM | ||||||||
True story. |
| Posted by: TheRhino22 May 10 2008, 10:44 AM |
| hey hey, relax now boys, I appreciate having the opinion from many. All is ok. relax now. |
| Posted by: ShakesAllDay May 10 2008, 11:59 AM | ||
Reps usually don't have opinions. They usually have agendas. |
| Posted by: ANIMAL333 May 10 2008, 06:20 PM |
John might be "pimping" but considering Leviathan Reloaded is one hell of a fat-burner, why not? It's not like he's suggesting a garbage supplement. I lost a good amount of weight, kept all my muscle, and maintained my strength on LR. What more could you ask for?  |
| Posted by: ShakesAllDay May 10 2008, 06:51 PM | ||
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| Posted by: ANIMAL333 May 10 2008, 06:53 PM | ||||
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| Posted by: ShakesAllDay May 10 2008, 06:57 PM | ||||||
I know. I've conversed w/ John in the past and he is a good guy. He is one of the 'exceptions' wrt the point I was trying to make. I'm just looking out for my fellow BNers.  |
| Posted by: willpiazza31 May 10 2008, 07:04 PM |
| I remember that one guy pimping those Thermolife supplements. He was bad. They make garbage in my opinion. |
| Posted by: alexoc949 May 11 2008, 02:01 AM |
| LR is pretty decent for fatburners on the market.. nothing compares imo to eca.. some aren't good on it though...LR and a few others are decent alternatives |
| Posted by: TheRhino22 May 11 2008, 08:15 AM |
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| Posted by: john123131 May 11 2008, 01:20 PM |
| its all good guys, i know that you guys get feed crap from every company that sells supplements, i see where your coming from on the "pimping" side of things.... Im not that person though...im honest with board members and hope that people do see that. Shakes sorry for coming off hostile bruv, best, b |
