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Applied Nutriceuticals REP

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 Well I've had a bottle of M-Drol sitting in my cupboard for many months, and finally got around to taking it. First week 10mg, second was 20mg, and last 5 days were 30mg. The first week I jumped from 215lbs to 224lbs, first few days I had slight headaches but subsided. Second week, vascularity was way up/hardness was way up but really I didn't gain jack for strength. Gained 224 to 230lbs. Back pumps I could feel if I did things that would set it off, resting none. Lethargy kicked in decently. Third week, same as second and still not really any strength gains. But back pumps kicked in big time, even at rest. Lethargy was a bitch. I decided to stop the cycle at 5 days into the 3rd week as sides overcame the gains. At this point I was up to 235lbs. My overall thought on this stuff is that toxicity overweighs gains, I would stay away from it. Gains from Phera-Max by Generic Labs were night and day from this stuff. Hardness was greater and size gain was greater on M-Drol but strength didn't ever take off for me. Toxicity levels of Phera is much less as well, I didn't get back pumps on Phera till hitting the 45mg mark, and 30mg was enough for gains. I only went to 45 to see if there was a difference. Even with over a gallon of water a day, back pumps would not stop even after adding in Taurine. Sure I look bigger but I feel like shit. This stuff is way too toxic for gains, which most gains are definitely water. I noticed no diuretic effects, or lean gains. Really just water gains, which did feel good but whats the point, and definitely not worth the health risk. On a side note, I just finished stacking DRIVE and RPM a month prior and gained larger amounts of strength without any worries of gyno, liver/kidney problems, or needing PCT. I felt great, and the gains only stopped upon stopping the stack but never went down like they do after stopping a hormonal product. I strongly believe DRIVE/ RPM are not only safer but just as strong for making gains. I would recommend that anyone take 2 bottles of each Drive and RPM stacked before heading to the hormonal department. By the time you buy all your supports, anti E's, Test boosters, and M-Drol you could buy 2-3 months worth of Drive/ RPM stacks and never worry about anything besides getting too big!!
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 Not sure man, its strange the weight gain came on quick. But strenght really didn't change. Had some shrinkage but not bad, could be it just doesn't work for me. These prohormones/prosteroids really don't have much science behind them like the real deal. They look like it in structure, but being a different structure can totally change how it reacts with different people. I'd totally pin Test before running this shit again!!! But I'm cool with gaining what I do with Applied for now. Gotta try and get some pics up soon bro, sucks as my wife is usually busy with our daughter by the time I have time to take some new pics. But I gotta try to get some soon.
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I'm Going to Kill you!

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 damn, sorry to hear about the sides from the mdrol. its like you said, sides outweigh gains. It increased my size slightly but the joint pain and mood swings were too much. PCT was miserable. +1 test is king goods. Maybe i had a shitty batch, but id never run that again. But thats what made me take the leap. iffy gains, sides, bad reports all over the net on bunk or tainted batches.... id never go back to strictly orals. the toxicity alone is enough to leave em behind.
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 100% right Jay, PCT sucks right now. Its weird, I feel so weak yet once I start my lifts now being off I'm actually feeling stronger than being on. Then when I got done lifting, I was so wore out feeling I thought I was going to throw up my postWO shake. Seriously weird, and nothing like PheraMax. I'm definitely done with methylated crap, its not worth the trouble. Drive/ RPM is definitely where its at. I didn't gain 20lbs in 3 weeks off it, but gained 4 extra reps a set off it and felt great the whole time. Better yet no PCT, and my balls felt like watermellons. 20lbs in 3 weeks, how much of that is water though? Its pretty shitty that the Government has to get their hands in supplements with that ban that killed "prohormones" like 1-AD and such. It only made things worse, I mean taking 30mg of M-Drol with all these sides to taking 300mg of 1-AD with no sides. What the hell exactly is going on when get back pumps? They're pretty close to gone but still when I lay in bed if I lay on one side I actually feel a slight pain. Sucks, I guess between those and the lethargy killed M-Drol. I'd sit and watch tv or play some videogames for a bit, feel super tired, get up and go to the bathroom, look in the mirror and around my eyes would be swollen just like I had just woke up from like an hour nap. Other than that the increased vascularity, and muscle thickness and hardness were decent I can atleast give M-Drol that, but its like it stops there. I didn't really feel mood swings till now on PCT, I actually felt like the man my first 2 weeks then even in the 3rd till back pumps started to get painful. What killed the cycle, was Wednesday for legs I couldn't do squats unless I wanted to fight it, so I said fuck this shit!!! And just did curls and extensions then got through my second half of the week, and started PCT on Saturday which would be my 2nd leg day for the week.
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 If someone were to run this I'd say either don't go over 10, possibly 20mg a day. Not gaining any strength I decided to run 30 on my 3rd week, but should have stayed at 20. All in all though, its still not worth the health risks. Like Goods, and Jay said get yourself some Test and go that route.
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 Ive been pondering m-drol for a few weeks now. I like what ive read about the mass gains, but now hearing about the sides you experienced its making me think twice. Ive taken S1+ and 1 AD on seperate occasions before and loved the results... minimal sides, great gains. But now that those are out of the picture m-drol was interesting me. At 6'2 205, im shooting for about 220. Guess i'll scratch my head for a few more weeks! haha
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 werd i dont know what it is about mdrol but the pct was horrid. i still have some left. i even have a bottle of Pplex. i hear the "Phera" clones are getting banned soon. is this true? Not sure what im gonna do with the pplex....maybe use to kickstart my next cycle or something. not sure.
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If it hurts, it works!!

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 I used it a few months back to kickstart a cycle and my face right around my eyes were really puffy too, ears got hot and face, I could feel my pulse in my head, piss was still yellow after 2gallons of water, nips got sensitive, mood swings, and hot flashes. The positives were strength jumped up really fast, and thats about it. I only used 10mgs a day. I wouldnt recommend mdrol to any one. Phera on the other hand was great, not even half the sides and that was at 60mgs a day. The mass and strength gains when better too. Phera may be wet but its still better than mdrol.
I N D I A N A !!!!!!
Every body wanna be big, but no body wanna lift big weight!
Gonna Be A Monster!!
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 | QUOTE (DownTown @ May 20 2008, 06:17 PM) | I used it a few months back to kickstart a cycle and my face right around my eyes were really puffy too, ears got hot and face, I could feel my pulse in my head, piss was still yellow after 2gallons of water, nips got sensitive, mood swings, and hot flashes. The positives were strength jumped up really fast, and thats about it. I only used 10mgs a day.
I wouldnt recommend mdrol to any one. Phera on the other hand was great, not even half the sides and that was at 60mgs a day. The mass and strength gains when better too. Phera may be wet but its still better than mdrol. |
Same here DT, MDrol isn't worth it next to Phera. Actually with how good Applied's supps are working for me, I have no reason to go back to PH's. I think you should run Drive/ NeoVar DT, for how much you liked Anabolic pump this stuff gave me mad strength gains on top of good pumps that last, most of the time I'm fuller till my next workout. Hitting parts 2x a week I don't think you'd really come down much, I mean its not like I just got done working out, but I'm definitely fuller all the time.
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 That's the problem with these clones. When AX was still producing the real Superdrol, that was supposed to be legit shit. People weren't really seeing bad side effects from it like they did from all of these clones. Same with the AX Phera-Plex. That's why AX Superdrol goes for insane prices on Ebay and other auction sites, even with $20 clones out there, because it's not supposed to produce a host of sides like the new clones. Jayv, Phera-Plex is being banned June 24, along with two other compounds, one of them being boldenone precursors.
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