NeoVar "Recomped" test run!

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Posted by: ANIMAL333 May 25 2008, 11:47 AM
I've been given the opportunity to test out the new Neovar. The writeup look's solid and if it's any better than the original i'll be happy biggrin.gif . I'll be taking 6 a day (2 doses of 3 caps), one dose before breakfast and 1 post-workout.

New NeoVar “Recomped” is the most potent and biologically efficient creatine product yet. The Mono/PCr Complex in NeoVar is a precisely proportioned combination of phosphocreatine and creatine monohydrate that is chemically identical to the naturally occurring human skeletal intramuscular creatine pool stored in your working muscles. No other creatine product accomplishes this! Additionally, NeoVar adds our proprietary Glucovar / Adenylate Cyclase Sensitization Complex, which contains powerful, scientifically proven insulin-mimetic compounds that can dramatically improve creatine transport into skeletal muscle cells where you want it – without the bloat!

---Increases cellular volume maximizing muscular size and strength while increasing protein synthesis
---Increases insulin sensitivity, maximizing glucose and creatine transport into the muscle

NeoVar Supplement Facts:
Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings per Container: 240
Amount Per Capsule 750mg
PCr-Mono Matrix Proprietary Blend 646mg
Phosphocreatine
Creatine Monohydrate
Glucovar/Adenylate Cyclase Sensitization Complex
Proprietary Blend 104mg
Banaba Extract (Lagerstroemia Speciosa 1% Corosolic Acid)
Gymnema Sylvestra (75% Extract)
D-Pinitol
Bioperine (95% - 98% Piperine)

Posted by: ANIMAL333 May 25 2008, 11:54 AM
Here's a little info about me:

Age: 22
Weight: 205
Bodyfat: 12%

Current Supplements:
ON Gold Standard
EST Bio Pro Blend
ON GlycoMaize
CL Whiteflood
Animal Omega

My log will begin tomoroww so stay tuned! cool.gif

Posted by: Kevin43403 May 25 2008, 04:11 PM
I'll have to check this out to see if it is anything like the last one. LOVED the last NeoVar.

Posted by: Cdubya May 25 2008, 04:52 PM
God damnit animal you always get to test everything!! haha just givin you shit brotha, good luck with this shit, I'm highly interested..

Posted by: ANIMAL333 May 25 2008, 10:05 PM
QUOTE (Cdubya @ May 25 2008, 04:52 PM)
God damnit animal you always get to test everything!!

I've been hearing that alot lately biggrin.gif

Thank's for the support fella's. I cant wait to start this thing tomoroww cool.gif

Posted by: ANIMAL333 May 27 2008, 11:03 PM
Well I took my first dosage this morning after breakfast. It says to take with carbs, so I took it with 2 cups of oats biggrin.gif I took my second dosage (3 caps) after my workout with 40g of Whey and 50g of Waxy Maize

DAY 1

Training: Sho/Tri's
Overhead Barbell Press: 155x6, 185x6, 185x6
Upright Rows: 80x10, 90x8, 90x8
Standing Lateral Raises: 20x12, 25x12, 25x10
Close-Grip Bench: 185x6, 205x6, 225x5
V-Bar pushdowns: 3x12
Weighted Dips: 25x12, 45x8, 45x8

Overview:
Well today was my first day of using Neovar so honestly I can't say much here. I noticed that my pump lasted much longer after my workout (about 2 hours), but my strength and endurance didn't change. I wasn't expecting Neovar to kick in on Day 1, but im hoping to notice something here soon cool.gif

I've got a couple questions for Vitruian and BigBen.
1) It says to take with carbs. Would it be more benefical to take it after a meal, or before a meal?
2) On off days, should I stiick to 1 serving or 2?

Posted by: Big_Ben May 28 2008, 08:48 AM
Yo Animal!!!! Carb intake is looking phenom dude!

1) Definitely take the NeoVar before a meal, take it and wait 15 minutes and eat/drink away!!! Most of the time I'd get a funky burp just at the 15 minute mark, then I'd start downing carbs!

2) On off days I'd still stick with a full serving. That way you aren't dropping levels and upping levels, keep it nice and even.


Awesome that your pump lasted on the first dose as it is pretty quick working stuff. For me as it should for you after awhile it'll start to feel like either you are alittle pumped even a few days after workouts and just by flexing you can feel a pump starting!! And it only gets better with time, as will strength. If you feel your highest weight set isn't enough add, once NeoVar really gets going you should start feeling strength gaining. It won't be overnight or a massive jump at once, but for me it was a constant gain. I felt awesome, between strength and my muscles feeling hard, tight, and full I knew this is a superior Creatine product.

Keep it up!

Posted by: ANIMAL333 May 28 2008, 09:07 AM
QUOTE (Big_Ben @ May 28 2008, 08:48 AM)
Yo Animal!!!! Carb intake is looking phenom dude!

1) Definitely take the NeoVar before a meal, take it and wait 15 minutes and eat/drink away!!! Most of the time I'd get a funky burp just at the 15 minute mark, then I'd start downing carbs!

2) On off days I'd still stick with a full serving. That way you aren't dropping levels and upping levels, keep it nice and even.


Awesome that your pump lasted on first dose! As it only gets better over time, as will strength. Keep it up!

Thank's for the advice Big Ben! cool.gif

Today is going to be Back/Biceps. Im gonna take 1 serving pre-workout with RPM, rather than post-workout (just to see what works best)

Posted by: Big_Ben May 28 2008, 09:34 AM
QUOTE (ANIMAL333 @ May 28 2008, 10:07 AM)
Thank's for the advice Big Ben! cool.gif

Today is going to be Back/Biceps. Im gonna take 1 serving pre-workout with RPM, rather than post-workout (just to see what works best)


Not sure if I'd switch it up just yet, but if you do don't take out your post dose. Once you've worked out, the NeoVar will shuttle the carbs and creatine to your worked muscles which improves growth and recovery after training! So if anything switch your morning dose up closer to preWO.

Vitruvian had me playing with with morning/preWO and a 6 pill post dose but there was always a postWO dose.

Each time has its benefits, morning being hungry it'll shuttle carbs quicker and more efficiently to muscles, preWO should increase endurance and give you a lift, and postWO will bump recovery = better growth.

Posted by: Vitruvian May 28 2008, 08:08 PM
A post workout dose before recovery meal should be a standard.

A 2nd dose should go either pre-breakfast, or before whichever meal precedes your workout. Your choice.

A 3rd single capsule dose goes very well on an empty stomach with RPM pre-workout

Overall, looking good man! Sorry so slow checkin in!!!

Posted by: ANIMAL333 May 28 2008, 09:12 PM
Today I decided to take one dose before lunch (3 caps), 1 cap pre-workout, and one dose post-workout with 40g Whey and 50g Waxy Maize.

DAY 2

Training: Back/Bi's
Front Pulldowns: 130x10, 150x8, 170x8
T-Bar Rows: 90x10, 115x6, 115x5
Underhand Barbell Rows: 135x12, 155x8, 175x5
Barbell Curls: 95x12, 105x8, 105x7
Preacher Curls: 80x12, 90x8, 90x6
Hammer Curls: 30x10, 35x10, 35x8

Overview:
I ended up having a really good workout today. Im not sure if it was the RPM or the Neovar though. I haven't taken RPM in over two weeks, so I have a feeling that's what made for such a great workout cool.gif I can't really say too much for Neovar at this point though. My endurance was definitely up today, but my strength/pumps were nothing out of the ordinary.

Posted by: ANIMAL333 May 29 2008, 02:34 PM
I didn't have time to work out today, but i've already taken both doses. I took one 15 minutes before breakfast (3 caps), and one dose before my last meal (also 3 caps).

I decided to experiment a bit with the carbs. For my last meal I had 20g Whey with 75g Waxy Maize, and 1 cup oats. I figured I would load up on carbs (around 150 total) to see if I noticed any benefits from the Nevoar. Well, it worked biggrin.gif

Right after I finished eating I noticed my muscles felt much fuller than usual. Its been about 45 minutes since I had the meal and there still full, and somewhat pumped. So from here on out im going to up my carb intake to 100+ for each dose cool.gif

Posted by: Big_Ben May 30 2008, 12:30 PM
QUOTE (ANIMAL333 @ May 29 2008, 03:34 PM)
I didn't have time to work out today, but i've already taken both doses. I took one 15 minutes before breakfast (3 caps), and one dose before my last meal (also 3 caps).

I decided to experiment a bit with the carbs. For my last meal I had 20g Whey with 75g Waxy Maize, and 1 cup oats. I figured I would load up on carbs (around 150 total) to see if I noticed any benefits from the Nevoar. Well, it worked  biggrin.gif

Right after I finished eating I noticed my muscles felt much fuller than usual. Its been about 45 minutes since I had the meal and there still full, and somewhat pumped. So from here on out im going to up my carb intake to 100+ for each dose  cool.gif

Awesome!!!! Looking good Animal. Glad to see you aren't skimping on the carbs, as long as you aren't getting sleepy from the influx of high carbs its only going to help push more creatine into your muscles = better gains.

Give the product atleast 5 days to a week, just like a loading phase though you don't need to load it and it'll only increase effectiveness.

Like I've said, I'm done with methylated prohormone junk. Running Drive/RPM has always mimic'd results of what I got from Phera, with adding in NeoVar it was icing on the cake. Its good when you get done and have gains that you'd think require PCT, yet there is nothing you have to do! I love it when you can feel the pump starting when you just gotten done eating cause when you do hit the gym its GAME OVER!!! Pumpalicious baby!!! tongue.gif

Posted by: ANIMAL333 Jun 2 2008, 12:37 PM
Thank's for the support and advice Ben cool.gif

I haven't had a chance to workout since the last time I posted, due to work. I did get a chance to hit the gym this morning though biggrin.gif

DAY 7

Dosage: 3 caps 10 minutes before breakfast, 3 caps post-workout

Training: Back/Bi's
Front Pulldowns: 150x10, 160x10, 170x8
Reverse Bent-Over Rows: 135x12, 155x10, 175x6 (+1)
T-Bar Rows: 90x6, 100x6, 115x6 (+1)
Standing Cable Rows: Full stack for 3x12
Barbell Curls: 95x10, 105x6, 110x5
One-Arm Preacher Curls: 30x12, 35x8, 35x8 (+2 forced reps)
Concentration Curls: 3x12 with 30 pounds

Overview:
I ended up having a really good workout today. I took 4 RPM's 45 minutes pre-workout and one scoop of whey 1 hour pre-workout. I was able to get an extra rep on both Bent Over Rows and T-Bar rows, and I was pumped beyond belief. I took my first dose of Neovar with 100 carbs and my second with 80 today. I've been keeping my calories around 2600-2800, but it looks like im starting to gain some lean mass biggrin.gif As for the effect's of Neovar thus far i've noticed increased muscle fullness throughout the day, and my strength is starting to go up quite nicely

Posted by: ANIMAL333 Jun 3 2008, 12:35 PM
I didn't to play with the dosage a bit today. Rather than taking 6 caps total (2 doses of 3 caps), I took 8 total (2 doses of 4 caps each). I noticed slightly more increased fullness after my first dose, but my post-workout dose didn't feel much different. I'll probably just stick to 6 caps a day to make the most of the bottle cool.gif

DAY 8

Training: Chest/Tri's
Incline DB Press: 60x12, 70x10, 75x8
Flat DB Press: 60x10, 70x8, 75x8
Flat DB Flyes: 35x12, 40x12, 45x10
Close-Grip Bench: 185x6, 205x6, 225x6
Rope pushdowns: 3x12
Skullcrushers: 70x10, 80x10, 90x8

Overview:
I cheated a little bit today but the Neovar seemed to work well with it cool.gif I took my first dose with 4 pancakes, 1 scoops whey, and an apple and my second dose with 2 scoops whey and 70g Waxy Maize. My musscles felt full from immediately after breakfast up to my workout (a good 2-3 hours). My pump during my workout was pretty sick, and I didn't even take RPM today. I was able to get an extra rep on Close-Grip bench but my Chest hasn't gotten any stronger in the past couple weeks (due to a hurt shoulder). Tomoroww i'll be doing Shoulders and Legs, and im hoping to hit a PR on Military Press and possibly Squats biggrin.gif

Posted by: ANIMAL333 Jun 3 2008, 12:38 PM
It's only been 8 days and im already very impressed with Neovar. I've never experienced increased muscle fullness with a creatine product throughout the day, but Neovar does the trick. I was a little skeptical with the Creatine Monohydrate and water bloat, but it looks as if im almost leaning out a little (probably due to my diet though). But when you look at the price/effectivness, I doubt Neovar can be beat wink.gif

Posted by: MoVin_Weight Jun 3 2008, 12:44 PM
log is lookin solid bro... definately lookin forward to tryin the new neovar out when i run out of creatine gluconate

oh and just wonderin if your stats at the top of your log are a misprint? or what happened... in your RPM log you were 220 at 13% now you got it listed that your 205 at 14%???

Posted by: ANIMAL333 Jun 3 2008, 12:53 PM
QUOTE (MoVin_Weight @ Jun 3 2008, 12:44 PM)
log is lookin solid bro... definately lookin forward to tryin the new neovar out when i run out of creatine gluconate

oh and just wonderin if your stats at the top of your log are a misprint? or what happened... in your RPM log you were 220 at 13% now you got it listed that your 205 at 14%???

Thank's for the support Movin. I don't like to "pimp products" but Neovar is 100% legit. This is by far the best creatine product I have ever used, and it's only been 8 days cool.gif

As for my stats, yes there wrong sad.gif Im currently at 12% bodyfat, not 14. I've lost around 12-15 pounds over the past couple months, but my bodyfat has only gone down about 1-1.5%. I also just finished a 3AD cycle (about 2 weeks ago), which got me from 201 to 206

Posted by: ANIMAL333 Jun 3 2008, 01:04 PM
Im gonna try and get pick's up here soon too. I should be getting my dig camera back here in a couple days biggrin.gif

Posted by: Big_Ben Jun 3 2008, 01:49 PM
QUOTE (ANIMAL333 @ Jun 3 2008, 01:38 PM)
It's only been 8 days and im already very impressed with Neovar. I've never experienced increased muscle fullness with a creatine product throughout the day, but Neovar does the trick. I was a little skeptical with the Creatine Monohydrate and water bloat, but it looks as if im almost leaning out a little (probably due to my diet though). But when you look at the price/effectivness, I doubt Neovar can be beat  wink.gif

Good feedback bro, couldn't agree more as it sounds like its doing for you what it did for me. Nothing beats being bigger outside the gym, and some sick ass pumps in it!!! Cool stuff! Keep busting out new strength!

The pancake thing made me laugh, don't think of it as cheating its still a healthy dose of carbs! Eatin' ain't cheatin' as they say!!! laugh.gif Nothing wrong with pancakes, add a few fried eggs in there for some protein or a shake and waalaah! Perfection. I always eat some carbs to push my protein, or vice versa.

Also I never felt bloated on this stuff either, if anything I think I tightened up a bit. This stuff will definitely change the way you think about Creatine!!!! Even the old stuff was leaps and bounds over regular CEE for me. But this stuff did bump up strength better.

Just wait till you get a chance to run all 3, RPM/DRIVE/NeoVar....f-ing ridiculous gains my man!

Posted by: ANIMAL333 Jun 6 2008, 02:37 PM
DAY 11

Training: Sho/Abs

DB Shoulder Press: 60x10, 65x8, 70x8
Wide-Grip Upright Rows: 80x12, 90x10, 90x8
Bent-Over Laterals: 30x12, 35x10, 35x8
Hammer Strength Military Press: Dropset (130, 110, 90, 50)
Cable Crunches: 4x12
Weighted Decline Crunches: 4x15

Overview:

I did Chest/Bi's yesterday but didn't have time to post it up. I was a little sore but ended up having a great shoulder workout. My Upright Rows felt light and I had plently of endurance during my dropset to knock out 6-8 reps on each. I took 3 caps after breakfast (with 80 carbs) and 3 caps post-workout (with 100 carbs). Once again, nothing but amazing muscle fullness. I've felt pumped ever since I left the gym and it looks like im getting a little bigger. I can't say too much for strength, but several exercises have gone up on reps. Tomoroww im going to demolish my back and traps, so stay tuned! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Vitruvian Jun 7 2008, 09:52 AM
Animal,

How much time are you leaving between Neovar dose and food intake?

Posted by: ANIMAL333 Jun 7 2008, 12:46 PM
QUOTE (Vitruvian @ Jun 7 2008, 09:52 AM)
Animal,

How much time are you leaving between Neovar dose and food intake?

In the morning, around 15 minutes before breakfast. Post-workout, about 5 minutes before my shake

Posted by: Big_Ben Jun 9 2008, 08:33 AM
Great log so far, looks like you and the product are doing what you should be!!!

Loving hearing about the pumps bro! I swear you start realizing Arnold's words from Pumping Iron, especially when they last beyond your workout. Good stuff! Finish you workout and flex away!!! Thats what I do!

Posted by: ANIMAL333 Jun 9 2008, 02:28 PM
DAY 14

Training: Chest/Abs
Incline DB Press: 60x12, 70x8, 75x8, 80x6
Flat DB Press: 70x6, 75x6, 80x5
Incline Flyes Superset with Decline Pushups: 4x12 (for each)
Decline Weighted Crunches: 4x20
Cable Crunches: 4x12

Overview:

I ended up having a really good workout today. I hit a PR on Incline DB Press (80x6), despite having a messed up shoulder biggrin.gif I took 4 RPM's pre-workout today due to only sleeping for 5 hours last night, yet I had a TON of energy and amazing pumps. I would go as far to say my chest was as pumped as it's ever been. It's been 2 hours since I worked out and it's still full cool.gif

As for the Neovar, I can only continue to say great things. The muscle fullness is unbelievable and my strength is going up by the workout. I took my first dose with 2 cup's of oats today and my second dose with 80g of Waxy Maize. My muscles were full before I even worked out, and they blew up when I started hittin the iron. I even got a compliment from a fellow gym partner who said im looking bigger than normal cool.gif

Posted by: ANIMAL333 Jun 9 2008, 02:31 PM
I also hit a PR on Squats yesterday. I've been taking it easy since my knee surgery and keeping my reps in the 8-12 range. My previous PR was 315x6, but yesterday I got 315x8 biggrin.gif Im going to hit them again tomoroww, so stay tuned!

Posted by: ANIMAL333 Jun 9 2008, 02:32 PM
QUOTE (Big_Ben @ Jun 9 2008, 08:33 AM)
Great log so far, looks like you and the product are doing what you should be!!!

Loving hearing about the pumps bro! I swear you start realizing Arnold's words from Pumping Iron, especially when they last beyond your workout. Good stuff! Finish you workout and flex away!!! Thats what I do!

Same here biggrin.gif

Posted by: ANIMAL333 Jun 10 2008, 12:22 PM
DAY 15

Training: Legs/Calves

Leg Extensions: 4x12
Squats: 225x12, 275x10, 315x8, 315x6
Hack Squats: 3x10
Leg Curls: 3x15
Seated Calf Raises: 4x12

Overview:

I don't keep track of my weight with Leg exercises, other than squats. My PR was still standing strong today (315x8), but I was only able to get 6 on my last set. I didn't take RPM pre-workout today but I still had a crazy pump in my legs and I had a pretty high level of energy throughout my workout. Im not sure whether it's the Neovar or not, but my endurance was up quite a bit today too.

I took my first dose with 1 cup of oats and a banana, and my second dose with 50g of Waxy Maize. Although I didn't take it with the same number of carbs as usual, I still had a good amount of muscle fullness throughout the day and during my workout. Its only been 2 weeks but im 100% positive Neovar is the best Creatine i've ever tried cool.gif

Posted by: Mike81203 Jun 10 2008, 02:32 PM
looks good bro. i just ordered neovar with kwik karb after reading all the positive reviews thus far. seems to be pretty good but ill know for sure in a couple of days!

Posted by: ANIMAL333 Jun 10 2008, 02:44 PM
QUOTE (Mike81203 @ Jun 10 2008, 02:32 PM)
looks good bro. i just ordered neovar with kwik karb after reading all the positive reviews thus far. seems to be pretty good but ill know for sure in a couple of days!

You won't be dissapointed! cool.gif Just take 3 or 4 caps before your Waxy Maize shake

Posted by: Big_Ben Jun 12 2008, 01:57 PM
QUOTE (ANIMAL333 @ Jun 9 2008, 03:32 PM)
QUOTE (Big_Ben @ Jun 9 2008, 08:33 AM)
Great log so far, looks like you and the product are doing what you should be!!!

Loving hearing about the pumps bro!  I swear you start realizing Arnold's words from Pumping Iron, especially when they last beyond your workout.  Good stuff!  Finish you workout and flex away!!!  Thats what I do!

Same here biggrin.gif

Logs looking good homes, should add in a pose sometime after training!

Glad you are enjoying the maximum pumpitude in true Ahhnold fashion!

Posted by: ANIMAL333 Jun 12 2008, 02:35 PM
QUOTE (Big_Ben @ Jun 12 2008, 01:57 PM)
QUOTE (ANIMAL333 @ Jun 9 2008, 03:32 PM)
QUOTE (Big_Ben @ Jun 9 2008, 08:33 AM)
Great log so far, looks like you and the product are doing what you should be!!!

Loving hearing about the pumps bro!  I swear you start realizing Arnold's words from Pumping Iron, especially when they last beyond your workout.  Good stuff!  Finish you workout and flex away!!!  Thats what I do!

Same here biggrin.gif

Logs looking good homes, should add in a pose sometime after training!

Glad you are enjoying the maximum pumpitude in true Ahhnold fashion!

I'll try to post some pic's here soon wink.gif

I haven't had the chance to workout in the past couple days. Im gonna hit the weights hard tomoroww, possibly with a full-body workout

Posted by: ANIMAL333 Jun 15 2008, 03:32 PM
I've only gotten the chance to hit the weights twice since I last posted, one being today. My work schedule has been hectic so i've been using a Full-Body routine as of lately, but I like it biggrin.gif

DAY 20

Training: Full Body

DB Bench Press: 4x8
Overhead Barbell Press: 4x6
Underhand Bent-Over Rows: 4x8
Weighted Dips: 4x5
Barbell Curls: 4x6
Squats: 4x8
Cable Crunches: 3x15

Overview:

Today I decided to Circuit the first 3 exercises, and Superset the rest. I wasn't able to keep track of my numbers because I was keeping my rest periods short, but my strength was pretty good today. None of my numbers were up, but given how short the rest periods were, I was impressed. I had a ton of endurance throughout the workout and had a full-body pump going on cool.gif

As for the Neovar, I can only continue to say great things. I haven't gained any weight but it looks as if i've gained some lean mass. The muscle fullness is still great and my numbers are slowly but surely rising. My bottle is starting to get low, so I will probably be ordering another here soon biggrin.gif