The truth is u dun need nothin to build muscle, but proper training &nutrition. If ur shit is *on point* u shud at *least* gain 1 - 1 1/2 pounds within 4-7 weeks until u reach ur genetic limit.

If u havent reached ur genetic limit & still not makin gains, ur shit is off... ur either pushin like a pussy &eating like a princess.

Given that ur not a pussy/princess & can do all that naturally... u shud pack on enuff LBS on a PH/AAS cycle. u shud pretty much expload whether it is a oral or injectable. It shudnt take much @all w/PH/AAS

2lbs is a fuckin joke... even with the fact that pinnin is better &oral cycles produce alot of crap & water retention. especially since we are talking oral pulse cycles, where gains whud hav a better caliber over a longer period of time 6-8 weeks.





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Ok... this is what I'm doing. I've started my pulse and I'm plannin on runnin a fairly simple pulse of Mdrol. I'm changin it a lil bit as far as, goin 2on, 1off, 2on, 2off. I'm goin to progress the dosages really slowly. I think this will let me run a longer cycle and it will help me feel the difference as the weeks pass.

1st week 10mg just before workout.
2nd week 10 before and 10 after.
3rd week - 20/10
4th week - 20/20
5th week - 30/20
6th week - 30/30

I'm goin to feel out these dosages and may draw back as the cycle progresses depending on if I'm feelin sides or shut down. I'm goin to take trib on my off days and may introduce novadex on offs depending on how I feel.

Other supps I'm using through entire cycle include:
Massive amounts of Whey protein
saw palmetto
milk thistle
glucosamine
multivitamins

Also using NO xplode preworkout.

Calorie intake is between 3500 and 4000.

Im going to use Nolva and novadex xt for PCT. I might use something else other than novadex xt or change it part way through.

I'll check in occasionally. Amazingly I can already feel the 10 mg dose in my workouts. Little more pump and strength is def up. Also I"ve noticed my urine is still pretty clean. There was a noticeable change when running a straight cycle of mdrol which I believe was a sign of the harsh liver side effects despite using milk thistle.

Nice. Good luck w/ it and run a log here.

Moved up to 10/10 this week. Strength is still up, but not much more than last week. Endurance is way up. I feel like I could work out all day. Spent about 2 hours in the gym yesterday (chest) and today (legs). No sides other than some pumps in the lower back yesterday from workin outside and major bacne. Seems worse this time than on my last straight cycle. That might be due to the hotter weather though.

My weight is only up a couple pounds. I started out at about 183 and I'm consistently at 186 or so.

Also feeling slightly more aggresive.

Urine is already a bright yellow.

Just checkin in... Started Week 3.

Things have been fairly consistent. Strength is still up not necessarily much more than before. Sides or pretty much non existent this week. Finished out last weeks with 10/10 and already did chest and legs this week at 20/10.

Feeling pretty good overall. Stayin swole for the most part. Acne comes and goes. So far I'm diggin this cycle. I feel good everytime i go to the gym and definitely getting good workouts in.

My weight is at about 187. Little more blub this cycle. My diets been a little shitty though. I'm an ecto so I'v never been real careful about what I eat when I bulk. Last straight cycle I definitely leaned out a little regardless of what I ate.

Did shoulders today. Man does this stuff rock. Strength still goin up noticibly. I have gone up 5#s on my dumbell presses two weeks in a row. Got some pumps in my delts a little. Not painful though. I know when I ran a straight cycle my delts would get so pumped it made it difficult to do exercises like militaries. Like it took away some ROM.

Im definitely goin to 20/20 on workout days next week as planned.

Also noteworthy, the boys havn't gone to raisins so I'm thinkin I'm nowhere near shutdown.

Thanks for the updates broski. Gonna run an M-Drol cycle myself soon, will definitely use this log for advices when it comes time.

Nice to see things are picking up w/ minimal sides. How long do you plan to run it for? Keep us updated.

Yea I definitely prefer this over the straight cycle. I'm lookin to run this 6 weeks. I'm playin it by ear though. If it goes better than expected I may try 8, but not likely. I may also cut it short or cut my dosages back if the sides pick up and I feel like I'm shut down after a 2 day off period.

Did back n bis yesterday. I think I was getting pumps in my arms before I even worked out. Idk, I detailed my car for like 3 hours and my arms hurt worse than a workout. My forearms feel like rocks.

Regardless I gutted out my workout. Didn't affect my strength any. Strength is still up. Everything just hurt. Feel ok today, other than I think I bounced my spleen off my rib cage while doin my heavy set of deadlifts. Somthin fuckin hurts there, not sure what it is. All said - I'm still liking the cycle.

Chest yesterday. Legs today. Strength was up in a major way yesterday. All my lifts were significantly better.

Today was a different story. I felt lethargic, moody and strength was about the same as last week. Ended up being nautious and could hardly walk by the end of my workout. Just unusually tired. Libido is always rockin by the end of my 2nd "on" day. For the most part all is well. My appetite is a lot more up and down though during the pulse. That may be my own fault that I'm not being as consistent and disciplined with my diet as I was when I ran Mdrol straight. Damn it! I need to step it up with the diet. My diet is more likely to be the reason I was feeling off today.

Havent checked in for a while.

Ended my 20/20 last Friday with Bi's and Back. Strength still goin up! Sides aren't bad other than occassional acne breakouts. Libido is still good during on and off days.

Monday: Chest - against some peoples advice I started week 5 at 30/20. Sides still not bad, not even really getting any back pumps. Ive been a little more lethargic. Appetite is still a little up and down. Strength is still going up.

Tues: Legs - Still little bit lethargic. Just dont have that drive to workout for 2 or 3 hours like I did for the first few weeks. Still got a good hour in. Strength was up from last week on legs also.

Overall, my strength has been going up consistently every week. I feel good in general. My weight is pretty steady at 190 right now. Looking pretty lean - I may have lost a pound or so of fat. The sides really haven't been too bad either. This is still way better than the straight cycle I ran. I've put on about the same amount of weight, I haven't gotten overly aggressive, the back pumps havnt been bad at all and urine doesnt look like yellow syrup.

The other good thing is on a straight cycle, I used more product and I felt like destroying something on the days I wasnt goin to the gym.

This pulse has been better than expected. Even though I'm runnin higher doses, overall I feel better and I'm still gaining weight and strength. With a straight dosage I hit a wall and lethargy went up, back pumps were horrible and strength wasnt increasing anymore. I'm still playin it by ear. It does feel like the boys are goin into shut down. Unless I start to feel differently by the end of this week, I'm gonna go to 60 next week. And its definitely goin to be my last week. Then I'm runnin a full blown PCT.

I knew you'd like pulsing better than straight cycling. Glad you're getting great results without many sides. I'll be interested to see how it pans out.

When I did my pulse, I went ahead and did a traditional PCT, just to be on the safe side. Some guys that stick to a four week pulse skip it, but I did around 8 weeks and didn't want to take chances.

Hey thanks for the tips.

Have you ever ran mdrol at that high of dosage on a pulse?

This cycle is like the best of everything. I like being on cycle so it's nice to be able to run for a while. And it seems like my strength has gone up more on the pulse because it keeps going up every week. On the straight cycle it seems like strength stopped goin up after the 2nd week.

I havn't been takin anything to counter the bacne. Major breakouts occur on the day of 2nd dose but even more so the day after. So usually Tues and Weds or Fri and Sat. Then it clears up for a day or two.

I can almost watch them appear... ... pretty messed up. But bacne doesnt bother me much. I can still wear my beaters on certain days lol. It seems to clear up for me rather fast. I think thats another advantage of a pulse. The bacne isnt unrelenting for the duration of the cycle.

I need to be taking fish oil regardless.

Ooops haven't checked in for a week.

Thurs & Fri of week 5. Not much difference in strength. Sides have not increased, other than the boys are not returning. I'm definitely shut down now. In fact, theyre so tight I had one spin up on the top of my unit while my girl was riding me... I was like what the fuck is that???? ... thought I had a hernia or something...

Fortunately everything else is good. Still no back pumps, but urine is def bright yellow all the time.

If I were to do it again I'd take something other than Trib on off days and maybe run the doses up slower. (Do a couple weeks at 30 and 40)

Week 6

Decided to keep the doses at 30/20... I guess I'm scared to go to 60 due to the shut down and bright yellow urine. My liver must still be taken a beating.

Mon - Chest lifts are up again from last week as well as with legs on Tues.

God I love this cycle.

Weight has stuck at 189/190... I may have slimmed a bit though. It seems like I'm lookin a little more ripped in the abs area.

I haven't posted in a while... my 6th week ended with great strength increases shoulders and bis.

I did notice, however that my appetite was dropping and my stomach was upset all the time. I thought this was due to stress.

After discontinuing the mdrol my appetite actually increased and my stomach seemed to feel much better. I don't recall hearing that from anyone else, but I'm almost positive it was related to the mdrol.

Needless to say my workouts have been a little more difficult to finish in week 7. Strength was down a bit from week 6. This is the start of week 8 and I feel pretty good. My libido is down a bit, but not as bad as the straight cycle. My strength this week is still down from week 6.

Overall my appetite is better. I leaned out weeks 6 thru present, not exactly sure what I did to make that happen. But I'm at my leanest / highest weight. I'm still around 187/188 only leaner than when I started.

I started 40 mg nolva week 7. Week 8 I'm at 30mg Nolva and started taking 3 caps of novedex xt.

I'll be going to 20 Nolva next week and 4 caps of novedex (til I run out, then switching to 4 x 6oxo).

Week 10 I'll be down to 10 Nolva and 3 Caps of 6oxo.

Week 11 I'll run 2 caps of 6oxo and continue til the bottles gone.

I'll post here n there to keep any one interested updated.