Cutting -- without the caffeine |
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| Posted by: rbrooks656 Jun 14 2008, 10:04 AM |
| I'm currently trying to cut for summer, so I picked up a bottle of the Metacort. Is there anything other than this that would work, without the caffeine? I don't have anything against it, it just kills creatine's benefits, so I'd be wasting my money. Anything else that might be worth implementing with the metacort? Current supplements are - UN Shock Therapy and 3 tabs CE2 preworkout, UN Storm postworkout along with the obvious fish oil and protein/multivitamins. |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Jun 14 2008, 11:01 AM |
| Green tea, ALCAR, albuterol, raspberry ketones, TTA, guggul extract, etc. There are lots of things that don't contain caffeine that can assist in cutting. |
| Posted by: var Jun 14 2008, 11:35 AM |
| http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=43566 |
| Posted by: ropehead Jun 14 2008, 05:51 PM |
| if you havent already bought the creatine make sure you get creatine ethyl ester. caffeine wont have an effect on it. |
| Posted by: rbrooks656 Jun 14 2008, 09:21 PM |
| I'm using CE2 preworkout and Universal Nutrition Storm post workout. CE2 is ethyl ester in pill form. |
| Posted by: Jayv24 Jun 14 2008, 09:52 PM | ||
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| Posted by: Lorken Jun 17 2008, 12:18 PM |
| Most green tea does contain a small amount of caffeine (4%?). Probably not enough to notice. CLA, EFA's, Glutamine (studies show it helps fat loss). Haven’t tried it, but Hoodia might be used as an appetite suppressant, ECA works great for me though. Cortisol blockers. I'm using 11-oxo right now (too early to see results). I've heard good things about Lean Xtreme (also contains Forskolin/Forslean). Good luck! |
| Posted by: rbrooks656 Jun 18 2008, 01:04 AM |
| It's not much weight honestly. I'm hoping the metacort bottle will do the trick, its like 5lbs sitting on this scar on my stomach thats holding on like a pit bull. The scar is from hernia surgery when i was a baby. I'm seeing progressive cutting and definition on just my diet of 2200-2900cals "depends on the day" avg of about 1g protein per lb. The 7-oxo + estrogen blocker or whatever in metacort is supposed to be pretty good, though this would be my first pro-hormone product. I take my vitamins and watch my intake and make sure i eat often hehe. Even do 22 mins of HIIT 4-5 days a week. I want it gone. |
| Posted by: ropehead Jun 19 2008, 06:04 PM |
| i love metacort. it works a hell of alot better if you rub it on the thinner skinned areas. put it on the top of your feet and the back of your knees i promise it will not only work better but it will last longer because you dont need as much. |
| Posted by: rbrooks656 Jun 20 2008, 03:34 PM |
| Anything I should notice with this stuff effect wise besides the recently noticed increased sex drive? |
| Posted by: ropehead Jun 20 2008, 09:27 PM |
| 7-0x0-dhea is spose to improve memory as well but i cant remember if it did or not. |
| Posted by: Mr_McCaslin Jul 7 2008, 08:10 AM |
| ok finally someone is talking about topical PH... I've been looking into Metacort and Topical ATD forever now and could never seem to get any info on it... I'm not quite sure on how it works, but when you mentioned rubbing it on your feet and behind your knees does the entire body benefit from using it ? Like say if someone wanted their love handles gone, would they rub this stuff around their midsection to get that area ?? Any explanation about this would be greatly appreciated. Also, the big question is there any long term sides to using either Metacort or Topical ATD ? Thanks guys |
| Posted by: deviusdragger Jul 13 2008, 03:57 PM |
| i was wondering on this topic also, thanks guys for the useful info |
| Posted by: Lawn30177 Jul 18 2008, 06:07 AM |
| Looking for feedback on using Metacort. Just got a bottle yesterday and mainly looking to lean out. Is it best to use it at 5 sprays in the morning and evening for about 4 weeks and then taper it? As for areas, back of the knees, top of the feet, biceps and triceps? Not sure of the sprayer clogs much, but if so, should it be measured at 5 sprays equals 2 1/2 ml? |
| Posted by: On3musta Jul 22 2008, 04:59 PM |
| albuterol should be something to look into....seriously though |
| Posted by: rbrooks656 Jul 22 2008, 05:59 PM |
| already on clenbuterol sir, on my second day of it, did 60mcg yesterday, 80mcg today. A little bit of heat early on after taking it but its not that bad. |
| Posted by: On3musta Jul 23 2008, 01:43 PM |
| well albuterol is very different from clen but i hope the clen works out well ive heard good things bout it but be safe on the dosage |
| Posted by: accent115 Jul 23 2008, 02:18 PM |
| You'd have to take a lot of caffeine to kill creatines benefits |
| Posted by: gayv24inchspinners Jul 23 2008, 11:57 PM |
| yohimbine buster! and ephedra melts the fat off fo sho |