Thanks to Vitruvian for hooking me up.

Starting my Drive/RPM stack today. Here are my stats:

27yrs old
6' 7"
255lbs
17% BF (idk, maybe 15 or 16)
Currently benching 225x10, squatting 315x6, deadlifting 425x1.

Routine: Upper/Lower split (see training log in sig)

Drive Dosage: 3 caps, 2x a day. Off days: 2 caps, 2x a day

RPM Dosage: 1 cap mid-day, 2 caps 1 hour pre-workout. Off days: 1 cap, 2x a day. (do I even need to take RPM on off days though? advices appreciated)

Good luck, i'll be following

i don't think taking the RPM on off days is necessary...i took it in the morning sometimes just for a boost but it is really just a preworkout supp...the drive should be taken daily though

Thanks for checking in Animal and Michael.

Well, today was Day 1 of this stack for me. Took both as stated above. Didn't notice any significant increase in energy or strength. Granted, it's the 1st day, so maybe it'll kick in after being in my system a couple days.

What I did notice was that I was sweating like R.Kelly at a Miley Cyrus concert. Also, toward the end of my workout I developed a headache (which never happens to me) and I got EXTREMELY nauseous. I felt like I was going to puke for the last 10 min of my workout all the way till I made my PWO shake.

Not sure if the nausea was from the leg workout (posting my workouts in my training log in the sig...only posting the supp related stuff in this thread) or from the RPM/Drive. I'm thinking the latter though, since I've never gotten that nauseous from a workout before.

WTF???

the first time i took the RPM it was a little too intense so I dropped the dosage down for about a week and worked my way up...you might want to try that...i still notice effects when i take less than the recommended dosage

sweet bro good products, ill be watching might try and run this again


last time i tried drive tho, i had the squirts for a week be careful

edit: it was prob the drive bro,deff lower the dosage to 1 cap twice a day for a week then ramp up, i no alot of people who have gotten over the sickness/runs from this



good luck

Thanks for the advices guys. I'm gonna lower my doses for both for a few days and ramp up.

Off day tomorrow (going to the Mets/Angels game) then doing upper body on Wednesday.

What up JDub, gonna be watching this too! You can always PM me too bro!

You don't really have to take RPM on off days, I do just to get a boost in the morning instead of coffee, and just so each time I take it I'm not blasting off like I've never taken it before! That stuff is powerful, not a supplement to mess around with! But 2 before a workout isn't alot I take 3 @ 220lbs. How do supps like fat burners with caffeine effect you?

Not sure what your leg workout was like, nausea could be from the new supps, or depending how fast you got through sets, to how close to your workout you ate something its hard to tell from the first day.

If its from the supplements, it could be from the Drive's Forslean or just being overhyped up off the RPM. Drive does give me alittle GI issues, but not as intense as you described. I'll keep an eye out on your next workout. Running 3 and 3 watch out for the hershey squirts, I've almost aways ran 2 and 2, right now I'm at 2 in the morning 3 preWO. That is just from Forskolin being had to digest, very powerful stuff though as gains do come on faster.

At only 1 week in I'm already up in strength in chest!

For now I'd do as you said and just cut a pill out of each just to adjust to the new supplements.

Anyway enough talk, lets get on with WO #2 and see how it goes.

Lower Body workout today. More headaches, more nausea......and I'm broken out on my forearms, awesome. To make matters worse, I was still SO sore from squats (from friggin Monday!) that I could barely do half the shit I wanted to do today. Can barely flex my quads.

Seems like 99 out of 100 people love this stack...WTF???? What's the matter w/me?

Whats your water intake and diet look like? As for the breakouts...it happens to some people bud...its really nothing to worry about...its the forslean causing a reaction...it will go away. There is another guy I helped that was having the same problem...for him it went away after the first week. I've also seen a few guys complaining of it happening with Recreate...forslean once again being the culprit. Anyway I am here to help. Since this is Big Ben's home forum though and he is quite helpful and knowledgeable himself (he knows his stuff) so I don't frequent this forum as much so if you want my help or advice pm me and that will get my attention.

Cheers!

-Sean-

Applied Nutriceuticals Representative

Weird man, how close to workout times are you taking them? With any food or are you getting any other caffeine in your diet? Like SMS said whats your water intake like?

Thats strange bro, never hear of just taking 1 and 1, then getting those symptoms especially with a guy your size. Everyone thats taken it has been SFW's nonstop!!

For me, my stomach gurgled alittle the first week for maybe a half hour, but that was really all. Never gotten any headaches off either which is strange too. Mentally I'm in Happyland right now, its suprising how much my attitude has changed. But absolutely no headaches.

I'll get with Vitruvian on this and see if he can give me a solution or explanation of why you are getting this reaction.

Huh....

I'm stouped! Thats really weird especially at such a low dose. I have gotten alittle extra acne as well but with the increase in Test and sweating its just a little bit of a break out.

Yeah the pills in my mouth do taste alittle weird, but not like so bad its making me gag weird. But I always take my pills with a bite of food not water so it probably helps the taste alittle.

Waiting for input from Vin, I'll post up ASAP!

SFW today, took 1 Drive in the morning, another 1 in the afternoon. Took 3 or 4 RPM, spread out, with the final 2 about an hour before hitting the gym.

The nausea and headaches didn't happen today, so maybe my body is getting used to the chemicals. I have been noticing my tongue feels weird lately, almost like it's numb, but it's not...hard to describe. At first I thought I was getting sick or having allergies, but who knows, maybe it has something to do with the RPM/Drive.

Anyway, decent SFW session today (lifting #'s in my training log in sig) and was really happy that the nausea/headaches subsided. Gonna gradually start increasing my Drive dosage.

Haven't heard back from Vin yet, good to hear you didn't feel like crap again though.

As for me I'm in week 3 and just killed 355x3 at the top of my flat pyramid! Hopefully once you can increase Drive your bench will go up as well.

I can tell you I have got more breakouts than normal lately, mostly on my shoulders and alittle on my forehead. Natty Test is definitely up, and it doesn't help that RPM increases metabolic rate=more sweat! I usually get some acne when I sweat like this, last night I sweat for about 2 hours after my workout since we did a family bowling session!

Any updates Jdub?

Today was my first day using the stack too and I got the same side effects that you have described. I really hope they go away and good things come from this stack.. Glad to know i'm not the only one who has reported these sides