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 Week 1: 4Derm [500mgs transdermal] / 19Nor [500 mgs trans] Week 2: 4Derm [500mgs transdermal] / 19Nor [500 mgs trans] Week 3: 4Derm [500mgs transdermal] / 19Nor [500 mgs trans] Week 4: 4Derm [500mgs transdermal] / 19Nor [500 mgs trans] Week 5: 4Derm /????? Week 6: 4Derm /????? Week 7: 4Derm /????? Week 8: 4Derm /????? Options would be: Havoc, Epi, PP, SD, Prostanozolol, original H-50. Goals: LEAN MASS Experience: Quite a few cycles but its been about 6 months off. 200lbs 10%
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 | QUOTE (morgan45301 @ Jun 19 2008, 02:42 PM) | Week 1: 4Derm [500mgs transdermal] / 19Nor [500 mgs trans] Week 2: 4Derm [500mgs transdermal] / 19Nor [500 mgs trans] Week 3: 4Derm [500mgs transdermal] / 19Nor [500 mgs trans] Week 4: 4Derm [500mgs transdermal] / 19Nor [500 mgs trans] Week 5: 4Derm /????? Week 6: 4Derm /????? Week 7: 4Derm /????? Week 8: 4Derm /?????
Options would be: Havoc, Epi, PP, SD, Prostanozolol, original H-50.
Goals: LEAN MASS Experience: Quite a few cycles but its been about 6 months off. 200lbs 10% |
4AD & EPI complemented each other very well. i cudnt hide the mass & strength was very impressive. why do u run the 4AD &19NOR all the way threw & pulse epi for 8 weeks to avoid a libido crash if it occurs w/u
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 thats sum gud stuff u hav if i was guna run a cycle wit ur stuff id do this weeks 1-8 4adweeks 1-8 pulse epi or SD weeks 4-8 19nor if i planned on using other phs instead of epi or sd i wudnt pulse them tho becuz they r not gud for pulsing but thats jus me becuz i like the pulsing method & there r others that hate it on a straight threw cycle id start of w/ low doses with the 4ad and gradually go higher each week threw out the cycle to avoid a libido crash.
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 Morgan did you have a stock pile of the 4derm. I can't find it anywhere. Can you help me out with this? mr_jetski@msn.com
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 Not a cop josh. Just a brother trying hit some big numbers in the gym with a little help. I had purchased 4ad before they banned it and loved the stuff. I realize you can order product from outside the U.S. where it is not illegal. Thought some people might be able to point me in the right direction.
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 I had stacked M1T with the 4AD for 2 weeks and followed with 6 OXO and 4AD for 2 weeks. After I ran out of the 4AD I went on the same cycle after a few months off an noticed a drop in sex drive and felt more lathargic. If their is something comperable for what the 4AD is doing in this stack that is legal in the U.S. please let me know.
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 | QUOTE (bustout @ Jun 27 2008, 12:32 PM) | | I had stacked M1T with the 4AD for 2 weeks and followed with 6 OXO and 4AD for 2 weeks. After I ran out of the 4AD I went on the same cycle after a few months off an noticed a drop in sex drive and felt more lathargic. If their is something comperable for what the 4AD is doing in this stack that is legal in the U.S. please let me know. |
WTF is the point of stacking 6-OXO with 4-AD? Its like stacking fire with water. You aren't ready for steroids man.
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 | QUOTE (Josh47933 @ Jul 5 2008, 08:49 PM) | | QUOTE (HunglikeaHorse @ Jul 5 2008, 08:47 PM) | | I would stack several methyls in there. Not sure how much muscle you may gain since different stacks produce different amounts of muscle. |
Sure, if you hate your liver... |
What is a good way to repair the liver? I love stacking methyls but I did hear something about liver having a hard time with it.
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 Has anyone ever tried converting and oral M1t to a transdermal ( Dermabolics spra)? Would it be any less toxic on your liver and if it is how do you determind how much to mix with a bottle and know how many mg you are getting?
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 yes it dose but I am out! I found a product online that says 4AD but it's chemical make up is differnent than the original. Has anyone tried it yet?
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