I think I'm just going to cut the creatine completely for a bit, and go on a cutting diet. I'm at 205 6'2" right now and have been for the last two months. I see compositional changes when I look at my time lapse pictures of 6 weeks ago and now, but always weigh right around that 205-206.5 mark. Anyways to the point.

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I'm not sensitive to anything, and even have raw caffeine that I mix into my workout drinks to boost my energy when needed. I've done ECA but it looses its effectiveness soo fast that it doesn't seem like a long term solution. Tips appreciated! Thanks guys.

Prolly shouldn't cut at 205 6 2'

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii102/r...56/june24-1.jpg

Flab on the scar on my stomach, I want it gone. I gain really easy so I'm not worried about gaining muscle, I just want to minimize that scars appearance "It's from when I was a kid and was operated on for a hernia".

that looks more like skin than fat bro

I don't know, it's been going down, just the pace at which it has is killing me. I would hope its not something that would have to be removed or whatever as excess skin. I was really heavy at one point, this is the best shape I've been in.

Plastic surgery is probably the best idea for that scar.

I had a PT tell me that it was just fat % that needed to be brought down to minimize appearance of it.

Sure, if you get to be totally ripped it will help but it'll probably still look a bit distorted.

Well if it looks like a hardcore-fromthestreets look, im fine with it. It looks weird right now, and if i can cut it off "not literally" then id be all for it.

That doesn't look like it is all fat. Keep hitting your chest hard and heavy.

I'm on a 3 on 1 off routine, Heavy x 3 days then High Rep x 3 days. Heavy days - 5x5 routine, light days are usually a 10-12 rep routine. I even do HIIT cardio 4 days a week.

since you want to be Leaner and get rid of that, I'd get ripped first and see how it looks. I'd talk to a doc now too tho. who knows, getting Leaner might make it look worse

I'm fairly sure this is as bad as it gets for me. The skin and/or fat hanging on the top of it pisses me off, if you look below it, you can see that the skins very tight to the muscle. Even have these weird veins now symetrically on each side on the tops of my hips. I was a really big guy say 6 years ago -- 285-290. I ended up losing about 55 lbs through diet and original ephedra products and eventually got control of what I eat. Being at 205 right now is the lowest I've ever been at since before my teen growth spurt. I would like to get down to 195, but my weight hasn't moved in two months.

My strength has gone up though, with my lifts being 205x5 bench, 315x5 dead, 285x5 squat, though some tendonitis in my right elbow is slowing my pull progress down. I take a few supps at the moment, fish oil + multi + whey isolate + CE2/NO2. I'm willing to give some sort of stack a try for ripping up a bit more, as I definitely still have alot of places to lose fat.

your training seems fine, although change does help. as far as your maxes go they are good considering you've been cutting.

post your exact diet and what its been for a while. if you aren't losing fat now supps aren't going to help much. I bet its diet.

Diet isn't perfect, I don't track it beyond cals which is at about a 2600cal average. Worst thing I eat are these sandwiches from a local sub shop, and even then I don't feel they're that bad, fairly balanced eating. Usually I'm a meat + veg guy, veg usually being spinach, though like I said, its not practiced perfectly. I can't remember the last time I had something bad besides some custard like a week ago? I do drink one night a week usually, but its not ridiculous either. I should probably start logging it more, but its very protein heavy. I know what I'm eating cal wise, and I try more recently to include essential fats, as not having them was actually hurting me trying to be fat free.


-- and I eat in 4-5 meals per day. I cant do it any other way with the way I train 3 on 1 off, I just have this constant fire burning in my stomach heh. Worst thing I feel I do diet wise is not eat when I'm supposed to now.

its def your diet. it got you this far but fixing it will get you the rest of the way.

any idea how many cals those subs are? I bet they're white bread huh?

eat more often. count your cals for a couple weeks and then eat the same way. make sure its the right amount of cals too. cheat days are fine. have your cheat meals on the one day you drink. eat clean the rest of the week.

read up in the diet section. especially the stickies. then re-post your new diet

limit carbs to mostly morning and workout time. very low sugar meaning white bread fruits and the obvious shit. I stick to oats, and other whole grains.

anyway there's more to it than just this but read up and re-post

I'm going to log for a week and look over what I'm eating. I try to cook/eat healthy but I work some longer shifts sometimes, so I end up having to get a salad from mcdonalds or whatever some days. The white bread is really just the french bread in the sandwiches, otherwise my own stuff is whole grains at home, and carbs are usually not consumed past 6pm. I love my morning carbs though so I usually will eat oatmeal or some low sugar cereal, though usually oatmeal with some brown sugar. I'm going to log it and repost. The only other explanation for not losing at the moment is muscle gain is still fast "still early into starting my program again, i used to lift" so muscle gain is pacing along with my fat loss, but I don't know. When I look at the older pic from 6 weeks previous, I can definitely see the compositional change even though I don't have a change in weight.

So this is where I sat after one day, tougher focusing on cutting carbs than I thought it would be.

Meal 1

1 1/2 Cup Total Raisin Bran + 1/2 cup skim milk - 300cal
32g whey - 170cal

Meal 2

MRP Bar - 250cal
18g protein

Meal 3

32g Whey -- I have a tendency to use this to keep my stomach moving so I don't get hungry. 170cal

Meal 4


McDonalds Caesar Salad - 220cal
Caesar Dressing - 200cal - Newmanns Own "doesn't have any of that hydrodgenated shit"
Extra Chicken Breast - 120 cal
Large Diet Soda
32g whey protein - 170cal

Meal 5

Salmon - 12oz cooked in Olive Oil 260 + 100 for oil.
1 cup frozen stir fry veg - 120 cal
1 cup fresh spinach - 100cal
1 1/2 tbsp Caesar Dressing - 120cal
32g Whey protein - 170 cal

Thats where I'm at as of typing this message, and I will probably have one more thing of protein before the nights done to keep from being hungry again. Just under 2500 calories, and I still feel like I'm not getting enough, maybe its the lack of carbs besides my breakfast meal. Any ideas or suggestions?