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Posted: Jun 30 2008, 05:34 PM
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Hey guys, just curious as to which ecdysten product you think is better/more potent. Thanks for any feedback smile.gif

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Posted: Jun 30 2008, 07:33 PM
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E-bol is more potent...but they both suck
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Posted: Jul 17 2008, 08:13 PM
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I was just searching to see if anyone was having head wooziness from e-bol...and found this...but anyway I gotta say E-bol does NOT suck its awesome, I feel more aggressive, my sleep has gotten shorter, and I have more energy, my poundages are increasing, and I'm only on my 3rd day!

But you gotta take 2x the recommended dose, ecdysterone is only effective in the 400-500mg/day range..

o and it makes you a starvin' marvin
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Posted: Jul 17 2008, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE (Zephyr @ Jul 17 2008, 08:13 PM)
I was just searching to see if anyone was having head wooziness from e-bol...and found this...but anyway I gotta say E-bol does NOT suck its awesome, I feel more aggressive, my sleep has gotten shorter, and I have more energy, my poundages are increasing, and I'm only on my 3rd day!

But you gotta take 2x the recommended dose, ecdysterone is only effective in the 400-500mg/day range..

o and it makes you a starvin' marvin

Ive heard a lot of good things aout Ecdysterone by scitfit and also sybtra ec by syntrax...havent heard much about ebol
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Posted: Jul 17 2008, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE (Zephyr @ Jul 17 2008, 08:13 PM)
I was just searching to see if anyone was having head wooziness from e-bol...and found this...but anyway I gotta say E-bol does NOT suck its awesome, I feel more aggressive, my sleep has gotten shorter, and I have more energy, my poundages are increasing, and I'm only on my 3rd day!

But you gotta take 2x the recommended dose, ecdysterone is only effective in the 400-500mg/day range..

o and it makes you a starvin' marvin

It used to give me bad headaches, so yes
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Posted: Jul 17 2008, 09:21 PM
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I was just searching to see if anyone was having head wooziness from e-bol...and found this...but anyway I gotta say E-bol does NOT suck its awesome, I feel more aggressive, my sleep has gotten shorter, and I have more energy, my poundages are increasing, and I'm only on my 3rd day! 

But you gotta take 2x the recommended dose, ecdysterone is only effective in the 400-500mg/day range..

o and it makes you a starvin' marvin

It used to give me bad headaches, so yes

really? it used to be on my left side, not so bad tho...they went away today, my 3rd day...

o and flex, scifit's ecdy is just the pure stuff, but ebol claims it was the ACTUAL strain of ecdy (there are diff source of it) that is from the russian studies...plus, it has some other stuff, and obviously for me its totally tits

yep, tits.
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Posted: Jul 17 2008, 09:31 PM
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Your aggression is placebo btw, even if you think it works, it takes a little while to build up in your system.
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Posted: Jul 17 2008, 09:48 PM
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I dunno...I guess its not aggression so much as excitement about my poundages going up, translating itself into more focus at times. Not like I'm going around punching walls or shadow-boxing in the shower tongue.gif However, I disagree that it would need to take more time to build up, since I'm going at 2x dosage, and after all caffeine pills don't need to "build up" within the system. Just my opinion tho, maybe you read somethin' I didn't.

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Posted: Jul 17 2008, 09:52 PM
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Well given that caffeine is a drug and not a herb that was a poor analogy
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Posted: Jul 17 2008, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE (accent115 @ Jul 17 2008, 09:52 PM)
Well given that caffeine is a drug and not a herb that was a poor analogy

Preposterous. Both can be found naturally, Guarana to caffeine and Whatever to ecdysterone. Obviously it is doing something already because I am experiencing pronounced hunger.

O and I think a resounding Booyah is in order... biggrin.gif
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Posted: Jul 17 2008, 10:40 PM
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Well given that caffeine is a drug and not a herb that was a poor analogy

Preposterous. Both can be found naturally, Guarana to caffeine and Whatever to ecdysterone. Obviously it is doing something already because I am experiencing pronounced hunger.

O and I think a resounding Booyah is in order... biggrin.gif

Please don't be an idiot, caffeine is a stimulant. Good thing hunger is a quantifiable characteristic. Maybe you're just hungrier, and thus actually eating so your lifts are going up. Caffeine is more than an extract, its synthetic although I'm perfectly proud of your wikipedia search.
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Posted: Jul 17 2008, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE (accent115 @ Jul 17 2008, 09:52 PM)
Well given that caffeine is a drug and not a herb that was a poor analogy

Preposterous. Both can be found naturally, Guarana to caffeine and Whatever to ecdysterone. Obviously it is doing something already because I am experiencing pronounced hunger.

O and I think a resounding Booyah is in order... biggrin.gif

Please don't be an idiot, caffeine is a stimulant. Good thing hunger is a quantifiable characteristic. Maybe you're just hungrier, and thus actually eating so your lifts are going up. Caffeine is more than an extract, its synthetic although I'm perfectly proud of your wikipedia search.

Quantifiable, eh? Can't say I'm too proud of your usage, even in the logical application it does not apply in this context to hunger. Furthermore, ecdysterone can be synthesized as well, although it is irrelevant to me as I was not saying both supplements had the same effect, merely that it is indeed possible for a supplement to take action after even an initial dosage.

And lastly, since experiencing pronounced hunger is a typical effect of ecdy, even if my increased weights were merely due to increased consumption, at the very least it could be said that ecdysterone increased strength syllogistically.

Perhaps you would like to put your hat back on?

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Posted: Jul 18 2008, 09:27 AM
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Well, I hope you enjoy your E-bol.
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Posted: Jul 18 2008, 12:57 PM
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None of the ecdy products ever delivered on the Russian studies that claimed it superior to d-bol. But to even suggest it seems liek an absurd notion to begin with. I think you are better off saving your money and buying something else.
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Posted: Jul 18 2008, 01:26 PM
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Clinical studies by ICN Pharmaceuticals demonstrated that the results are further improved when the drug is combined with a high-protein diet, to the point of equaling or even surpassing the beneficial effects of conventionally derived steroids such as Dianabol [3][4].

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all I personally know is that at the levels I am taking it, and my doctor said it was acting as a steroid in me (@my physical), and I see changes after 3 days.

I'm not trying to get people to try this, just telling my experiences. I like it alot, for me id put it near creatine as my faves. and i dont think I'll post on this thread ne more, you can see @ wikipedia, muscle and fitness.com for dosing (search it)...5mg/ kg of bodyweight. everyones different. 'nuff said.
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Posted: Jul 18 2008, 02:22 PM
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Really it was causing shut down and is lowering your HPTA test levels
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Posted: Jul 18 2008, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE (Zephyr @ Jul 17 2008, 09:21 PM)
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QUOTE (Zephyr @ Jul 17 2008, 08:13 PM)
I was just searching to see if anyone was having head wooziness from e-bol...and found this...but anyway I gotta say E-bol does NOT suck its awesome, I feel more aggressive, my sleep has gotten shorter, and I have more energy, my poundages are increasing, and I'm only on my 3rd day! 

But you gotta take 2x the recommended dose, ecdysterone is only effective in the 400-500mg/day range..

o and it makes you a starvin' marvin

It used to give me bad headaches, so yes

really? it used to be on my left side, not so bad tho...they went away today, my 3rd day...

o and flex, scifit's ecdy is just the pure stuff, but ebol claims it was the ACTUAL strain of ecdy (there are diff source of it) that is from the russian studies...plus, it has some other stuff, and obviously for me its totally tits

yep, tits.

Lol ya i just started reading some about the ebol i think i may go with this products instead of the others
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Posted: Jul 21 2008, 09:37 PM
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Enjoy wasting your money or at least be prepared for underwhelming results. I've read tons of logs on various ecdy products and none ever delivered. Well some do make outrageous claims but it's mostly likely shilling as the strength increases don't seem proportionate and they could never provide comparison pics.
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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:46 PM
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indeed. ebol might be slighty effective but i have ran it including many of my buddies and there was nothing to speak of that was great. only thing i liked was the sleep it gave you. but i agree that its a waste of money seeing as how there are other supps you could take that would blow this away and there not PHs so def check something else out.

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