Figured some people will be interested in this so I will do my best to log this and should all be here tomorrow. Probably will start mon after the holiday/weekend.

I am 27 yo slightly over 180lbs and around 6-7% BF. I have experience with lots of preworkouts, fat burners, PH and designers.

Here is what I am planning...

when I wake up:
5:45am
2 caps of DRIVE, then 15 min 1 cap AP, then 15-20 mins later 20g whey and 40g waxy maize

breakfast ~700am
3 whole eggs w/ 3 eggs whites
1 cup oatmeal or 4 slices of whole wheat bread
2 cups black coffee
mulitivitamin

mid morning snack ~10am
15g whey with 15g casein
1/2 cup oatmeal or 2 slices whole wheat bread or banana

lunch ~1230pm
1 cap AP then lunch in 15-20 min
6-8oz chicken or 96% lean beef
1.5 cups brown rice

mid afternoon snack ~430pm
15g whey with 15g casein
1/2 cup oatmeal or 1 large apple or 2 slices whole wheat bread

1 hr preworkout ~500pm (usually around workout at 600ish)
2 caps DRIVE, 4 caps RPM, 2 caps NEOVAR

postworkout
1 cap AP, 2 caps NEOVAR then 15-20mins later 50g whey with 100g waxy maize

dinner
6-8oz chicken, steak, fish
1/2 cup oats, brown rice or couple slices of whole wheat bread

before bed
30g casein
handful of almonds

I am forced to drink lots of protein shakes since I have a few minutes between patients to get my snacks in, but it seems to work. Usually on my off day I try to bump up my carbs a little and on the weekends I try and eat more whole foods compared to shakes since I have the time.

I have also taken samples of both drive and rpm. I am pretty tolerant when it comes to taking stims, but if the 4 rpm preworkout bother me (especially with sleeping) I might switch 2 in the morning with the drive for a little extra go in the morning.

Workout split:
two day on one day off
workout 1: chest and bis
workout 2: back
workout 3: shoulders and tris
workout 4: legs and calves

One question I have is about the first dose of Neovar and whether it should be preworkout or should I take it in the morning or at lunch time? Since its part mono I should be taken with carbs, right so in the morning or lunch would be better?

In the morning about 10-15 mins before breakfast

couldnt wait starting today, YEAH YEAH!

7/5/08

745: 1 AP, 3 Neovar, 3 Drive
805: 40 whey, 40g waxy = 320cals
900: 3 whole eggs, 3 egg whites, 2 slices whole wheat bread = 469cals
1140: 6oz chicken breast, 1 cup oatmeal = 505cals
110: 3 Drive, 3 RPM
145: 1 AP
200: 10g whey, 10g casein, 1 apple = 200 cals (preworkout)
315: 3 Neovar, 1 AP
330: 50g whey, 90g casein = 560cals
435: 5.75oz 92% lean ground beef, 1 cup oatmeal, 1 cup strawberry = 595cals
735: 5oz chicken breast, 3 slices whole wheat bread = 473 cals
1045: 48g casein protein = 192cals

macros:
total cals 3314
carbs 380g (46%)
protein 336g (40%)
fat 50g (14%)

WORKOUT:
chest
incline BB: FEEL IT UP TOP!!!
155x12 165x10 175x7 185x5 165x8
DB flat bench: SQUEEZE
55x13 60x12 70x12 80x6
incline hammer strength:
180x11 210x8 210x6--drop-->140x9
flat DB flye (feet up): STRETCH
30x12 35x11 40x8

biceps
seated alt DB curl: ISO & SQUEEZE!!!
25x10 30x10 35x8--drop-->20x8
reverse grip peacher:
60x10 70x10 80x7
high cable curl: PUMP EM UP!!!
30x15 40x15 50x11
DB conc curl: STRETCH & SQEEZE
25x10 25x8

Over all felt good in the gym. Maybe a little extra pump and focus. Hard to tell, but excited to see how this goes.

7/6/08

630: 1 AP, 3 Drive, 3 Neovar
650: 40g whey, 40g waxy = 320cals
735: 3 whole eggs, 2 egg whites, 1 slice whole wheat bread, 1.5 cup strawberry = 420 cals
1100: 7oz chicken breast, 2 slices whole wheat bread = 433 cals
1215: 3 Drive, 4 RPM
1250: 1 cap AP
105: 10g whey, 10g casein, 1 apple = 200cals
210: 1 AP, 3 caps Neovar
225: 50g whey, 90g waxy = 560 cals
325: 6oz chicken breast, 1 slice whole wheat bread, 1 banana = 521 cals
630: 6oz chicken breast, 1 cup oatmeal = 505 cals
830: sushi (tuna, avacodo, white rice) = 449 cals
1100: 24g casein, 0.5oz almonds = 192 cals

macros:
tot cals 3562
carbs 422g (47%)
protein 347g (39%)
fat 54g (14%)

WORKOUT:
back
pulldowns (behindneck): ALL BACK, NO ARMS!!!!
130x12 140x10 150x8 160x6--drop-->120x7
bentover BB rows: STRETCH & SQEEZE
135x12 155x10 165X8 185x6/4/1
one arm DB row: SQUEEZE
65x12 75x12 85x10 95x7
seated cable underhand straight bar close grip rows: FEEL IT MID BACK!!!
80x12 90x12 110x8 120x7
back extensions:
15 13 12

Have to say there was a nice focus in the gym, best way to describe it. Wasnt the jittery feeling of normals preworkouts. Extended first two exercises with drops and rest pause because I felt so good. Great pump in my back and can really feel contactions. Workout was slightly over an hour and I could have kept going but forced myself to leave. Muscles look slightly fuller throughout the day and definately bigger after workouts compared to normal.

Holy crap I'll be watching! Get some pics if you can bro!

7/7/08

645: 3 Drive, 3 RPM
700: 1 AP, 3 Neovar
720: 30g whey, 60 waxy maize = 360cals
820: 6 eggs whites, 1 whole egg, 1 cup oatmeal = 475 cals
1035: 5oz chicken breast, 2 slices whole wheat bread = 368cals
1230: 45g protein (1/2 whey and 1/2 casein), 1 slice whole wheat bread, .5oz almonds = 378cals
300: 1 cap AP
315: 7oz chicken breast, sweet potato = 503cals
630: 45g protein (1/2 whey and 1/2 casein), 1 slice whole wheat bread, .5oz almonds = 378cals
800: 1 cap AP
815: 6oz 92% lean beef, 1.25cups brown rice = 629 cals
1040: 35g casein, .5oz almonds = 236cals

macros:
tot cals = 3315
carbs = 353 (43%)
protein = 343 (41%)
fat = 59 (16%)

Off day

Good mood and energy all morning, thats why I took the RPM in the morning. Have some DOMS in my chest and back is a little tight. Cant wait to get in the gym and do shoulder tomorrow!!!

Ben, yeah would love to get some pictures and trying to see what I can do. I definately notice my biceps seem a little fuller in size even on the days I havent worked out.

Exactly bro, you should start feeling big all over all the time once everything kicks in. Cool stack my man! Get ready for the gains!

yeah should have doubled up the order and gotten 2 bottles of drive

7/8/08

600: 1AP, 3 Drive, 3 Neovar
615: 30g whey, 60g waxy maize = 360 cals
750: 3 whole eggs, 2 egg whites, 1/2 cup oatmeal = 394 cals
930: 45g protein (1/2 whey and 1/2 casein), 1 slice whole wheat bread, 1 banana, .5oz almonds = 562 cals
1215: 6oz chicken breast, 1.25 cups brown rice = 484 cals
230: meal replacement bar = 278 cals
500: 3 Drive, 4 RPM
525: 1 AP
540: 45g protein (1/2 whey and 1/2 casein), 3 slices whole wheat bread = 506 cals
615: workout
725: 1 AP, 4 Neovar
740: 50g whey, 90g waxy maize = 560 cals
850: 7oz chicken breast, 1 cup oatmeal = 533 cals
1100: 35g casein, 0.5oz almonds = 236 cals

macros:
tot cals: 3913 (was a hungry kid today... have to eat to GROW!)
carbs: 464g (48%)
protein: 380g (40%)
fat: 58g (12%)

WORKOUT
shoulders:
seated DB press
65x12 70x12 70x 10 75x 7
standing DB lat raises superset w/ alt DB front raises NO BODY MOVEMENT!!!
20x12 w/ 20x10
25x12 w/ 25x8
25x12 w/ 25x6
lying incline DB rear lat raises SQEEZE THOSE REARS!!!
15x12 20x9 20x8
machine shoulder press
110x10--drop-->80x8--drop-->50x12
EZ bar upright row
70x12 120x7 120x7--drop-->70x10
BB shrug
305x12 335x8 355x7

triceps
smith machine reverse close grip press SQEEZE THE PRESS!!!
155x12 165x10 185x6 185x6
incline skull crusher wide grip EZ bar GET DEEP AND STRETCH!!!!!
70x12 90x12 100x11--drop-->80x10
bodyweight dips (body vertical)
15 13 10 8
rope pressdown PUMP 'EM UP!!!
80x12--drop-->60x12

What a great workout!!! Serious PUMP in each body part when I finished lifting. The muscles were rock hard and full of blood. DB shoulder press definately up from last workout have not done 75s without a spotter for a while. Next week going 80s!!!

Weight has been staying about the same, but cals are definately up from normal. This is the first true food journal I have kept. Like I said above I was so hungry every couple hours, damn job getting in the way, LOL!!! Tomorrow LEGS!!!

Yeah all is going good! Just havent had the time to log everything. The job and patients have been getting in the way.

One thing I can get over is that I am actually DROPPING in weight!!!

I started out at a little over 180lbs and now I am 176lbs. I am eating more and on a more consistant basis. As you can see from my previous posts my diet is very clean. And for my weight, I eat a lot. I do no cardio what so ever. My muscle look fuller all the time and crazy big after workouts. I just cant get myself at around 176lbs to eat 4000 cals a day.

Strength is going up with increase in reps each workout or going up in weight. Pumps are SICK!!! Dripping wet during most workouts. I am pretty vascular to begin with and have noticed a slight increase in places I normally dont see any veins.

Only think I suggest is if you take RPM in the morning before a workout BE CAREFUL!!! Had a morning off work and went in to the gym to workout legs and took my normal 4 RPM. IT WAS CRAZY!!! Such an intense feeling, will not do that again, LOL.

I really think this combo is great. Just should have gotten more Drive. It disappears quickly and might be slightly under dosed. The big block would be a great idea.

Really love drop sets and rest pause with this combo. Helps get the pump really going. Back days are awesome... my whole back just BLOWS UP! Legs some days I have to wait before I can walk out of the gym. After leg press my legs explode with pumps. I have been working on getting a better mind muscle connections in my chest and when I get it going my chest feels great. Arms get so big it HURTS! I want to do a day where I superset bis with tris. I think that would be awesome.

Sorry I cant keep the great detailed log going, this doctor thing just keeps me so busy. But will update as time progresses. Atleast you guys have an idea of how i eat and what my workouts are like.

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Up your cals. My bulking calories *should* be at around 3500 based on all the calculators (180lbs, 24, 5'9, 10%), but I end up maintaining or losing, so I have to go at least 4000 to gain. I'd make the extra calories carbs and take them with the AP.

Good luck!

Shoulders and tris tonight

Took in some extra carbs before my workout with my AP around 80g of a mix between whole wheat bread and oatmeal and went to 100g waxy maize after workout.

DB presses went well... last two sets were 75x6 was going to try 80s but last set of 75s killed me to get 6

tried Phil Heaths tri sets of 10 rep DB lateral raises with increasing weight for 3 sets
WOW!!! first time I tried this I got to the last set of 10 and definately had too much weight but my shoulders were blowing up and made sure to get the partials to 10 reps. The last two tri sets were better and was able to complete full reps but super burn and pump. Definately be doing more of these.

upright rows went well along with rears on the pec dec. Shoulders were nice and full with blood by the end of the workout

Traps got stronger... did DB shrugs and last set was 120 for 12 with nice hold and squeeze

Then off to triceps:
someone was on the smith machine so couldnt do my reverse close grip presses, so I did flat skull crushers (usually do incline) was a nice surprise at the weight i could easily do...
then i did over head ez bar presses making sure to get that deep stretch and once again was able to do more than usual
then I did seated machine dips and aftter these my triceps were crazy PUMPED!!!

I have to say the stack definately makes a difference. Hopefully adding the extra carbs will help start adding weight, but I should not complain since weight is going up in lifts and looking leaner... have to be adding muscle

Nice, figured this stack would produce some wicked ass pumps! Good stuff!

Heres a little update, workout have been going well and I have increased the carbs some especially before my AP doses. Definately strength going up or increase in reps with same weight. But then today... HOLY BEST BACK DAY EVER!!!

pulldowns behind neck (thumbless grip)
160x12 180x12 190x10
200x7--rest pause-->x4 then dropped to 150x12
(WHAT?!?!?! 200, hellz yeah!!!)

bent BB row (very strict, back parallel with ground or close and stretch, pulled to naval)
95x12 115x11 135x10
145x10--drop-->115xfailure-->95xfailure

1 arm DB row (hold contraction at top)
85x12 105x8 115x7
(FYI: I have never been able to do 115 before and hold the contraction tightly)

seated cable underhand close grip rows w/ high cable rope pulls (hold contraction and SQUEEZE!)
120x12/50x12
140x10/60x12
160x7/70x10

smith machine deads with stops below knees slightly off ground
185x7 225x6 255x6 255x6

Definately making great improvements. This was so surprising, did not feel any different and when I started I was totally impressed with the strength increase. Wish I had a second bottle of Drive as mine is getting low... definately buy two. Well worth it in my opinion if you can afford it. The pumps are sick. The energy and the increase in focus and body temp is great. And now the gains are really coming, totally shocked and a believer.

maybe it was all do to with me wearing my Animal beenie, LOL.