I just got a 90cap thing at 200mg. How much should I take a day before I start my cycle of m1t etc. As well as when I get off my cycle how much a day should I take. Im plain on doing 2 weeks before and 2 weeks after my cycle. Is that to short?

any one? Im thinking 3 times a day at 200mg each? Or should I go at 400mg 3 times a day.

Shoot for 1g per day so 5 pills.

Fpot66

Some1 point me to an article on why I would take this stuff while on PCT.
Also, it avail in tabs? Thanks!

Check out David's article on milk thistle at the bottom here. It explains the utility pretty well.

If you mean taking milk thistle PCT as opposed to taking it while on, there is no reason. Milk thistle should be taken DURING periods of extra stress on the liver. Methylated androgen cycles are a good example of times that the liver will be under extra stress. Whoever has perpetuated the myth that milk thistle while on is not necessary, should be only taken post-cycle, or will hurt gains on cycle is a dipshit.

Problems with kidneys have not been an issue to my knowledge. I feel that this is a bad idea. When you use compounds that increase gluthione levels in the liver, it will
increase the breakdown of oral drugs, making them less effective. Although
increasing liver enzymes is good for your liver, it is bad for any
drugs you want to take and allow them to pass through your liver unabated.
A better idea would be to use liver protectant supplements before and
after a cycle to help your liver rebuild its enzymes after they have
been damaged by methylated compounds. So I was thinking before for 2 weeks and after for 2 weeks. What are your thoughts?

any one? Can some one prove me wrong.

The way I figure it, you only have 1 liver, so keep it healthy year long regardless of whether or not you are on a cycle. I know I take milk thistle and R-ala year round and I recommend that anyone who drinks or does any type of activity that may in any way shape or form damage your liver to keep it protected, it is just practical.

Fpot66

So am I wrong about degration?

If you're more concerned with efficacy over safety, then I'm not sure what to suggest to you.

Also, I know of no research showing that taking milk thistle decreases oral androgen efficacy. That doesn't mean there isn't any, though.

Lastly, I highly, highly doubt that you will see any appreciable measure of decreased potency of methylated steroids with concurrent milk thistle use.

So maybe lower the dosage while Im on it from 5 caps at 200mg to like 1 cap at 200mg and than twors the end of my cycle I add a few more back to 5 caps again.
So start with 5 before my cycle than bring it down to 3 than to 1 during my cycle. I just don't want to spend lots of money on a prohormon as a example and only get 80% or 60% out of it you know vs 100%.

I would use it after a cycle that includes orals. Otherwise you are wasting part of the orals you are taking. By keeping the liver "healthy", it is able to process and remove the more of the orals from your system.
You don't want a "souped up" liver right when you start, it'll lower the effectiveness of the oral gear you take for the first few weeks.
Id just go in normal. The liver "damage" caused by methylated gear is greatly exaggerated. Id use the Milk Thistle post cycle to assist the liver in regenerating.

I desided to take it after words.

Methyls are not processed by the liver. Your liver is a self healing organ, after cycle it will bounce back on its own. It's during you cycle your values rise and any possible damage could be done, not before, not after, during.

You liver though, but you asked for advice and got it from one of the top experts in the field (David).

i recommend post pct with 1 gram dose a day

To sort-of echo a point Rwyan made: When dealing with things that are hepatoxic such as methylated androgens, accutane, acetaminophen, etc., when exactly do you think liver problems such as jaundice and others associated with liver failure occur? Do you think they occur during the cycle as a result of an overdose (an overdose with respect to how much your liver can handle, not necessarily an overdose in the sense of ODing on crack), or do you think they just pop up out of nowhere somewhere down the line? While both do occur, which do you think gives medical professionals now and in the past reason to monitor your liver values WHILE ON CYCLE? Why do you think people are cautioned to monitor liver values or take medications to keep liver values in check WHILE TAKING THEIR MEDICATIONS?

That's a pretty rhetorical question so I'll let you answer it. However, if getting an extra 10-20% effectiveness that 1) you aren't going to see real-world, and 2) won't really even occur, as David stated that methyls pass even a healthy liver is more important to you than prevention of a possible fatal condition, I don't know what to tell you. I know liver toxicity is severely overstated, but it's not for those who have existing liver problems but aren't aware of them.

So like I had though go with 1 cap at 200 while on the cycle and while off go with 5 caps at 200 grams a cap. Just spending lots of money on products and to lose its effective ness to be worried. I mean I know tones of people that don't take milk thistle till after and before and they haven't told me of any problem. But then again they might have not told me for a reason who knows.

Do whatever and however ya want. Everyone here has been trying to give you good information and information that we follow. Up to you if ya want to take a chance and be taht someone that MAY run into a problem by taking the cheap way out.

Sounds like your looking for a reason not to use milk thistle during your cycle? Personally, i use it before, during, and after.