Jason's Blue Gene and Purple Wraath Log |
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| Posted by: Jason2459 Jun 26 2009, 09:17 AM |
![]() Blue Gene - Natural Anabolic Matrix ![]() Designed to help the serious athlete optimize mitochondrial biogenesis, hormone level ratios, and support oxygen rich blood cells during athletic performance and recovery, this stimulant-free formula means more endurance, power, and better recovery without pro-hormones or grey area compounds. No hormones means no post-cycle therapy, depression, or other risks associated with exogenous hormonal ingestion. Key Attributes: Controlled Release Formula Stimulant Free Endurance and Stamina Natural / Legal Power and Performance Optimize Natural Hormone Levels and Recovery Ingredients: Serving Size: 5 Tablets Servings per Container: 30 Amount Per Serving Niacin (as Niacinamide) 50 mg Sodium (as Sodium Bicarbonate) 41 mg Blue C Complex 3750 mg L-Carnitine (1800 mg), Cissus Quadrangularis (20% Extract), Carao Extract (Cassia Grandis), Catuaba 4:1 Extract (Trichilia Catigua) and Propionyl-L-Carnitine (200 mg) Blue Sky Complex 2200 mg Quercetin, Ginkgo Biloba (Extracted for Ginkgo Flavone Glcosides and Terpenes), Grape Seed (Extracted for 95% OPC), Epimedium Sagittatum (Extracted for 50% Icariin), Coenzyme Q10 (ubiquinone), Griffonia Simplicifolia Extract, Apigenin (98% Extract) and Perilla Frutescans (Extracted for 23% Luteolin) Other Ingredients: Maltodextrin, Magnesium Stearate and Artificial Colors. Purple Wraath: Ergogenic Essential Amino Acid Matrix ![]() Discover the "Holy Grail" of bodybuilding and athletic performance enhancement: maximizing lean gains and fat loss while enhancing recovery and increasing strength, endurance, and energy. Purple Wraath was created to be the most complete EAA/BCAA product on the market; keeping your body in a constant anabolic state and keeping you training hard with its added super endurance complex. Key Attributes: Fast absorption/fast acting EAA & BCAA Caffeine-free ergogenic formula Delicious tangy grape flavor Natural anabolic environment Increase athletic performance, endurance, focus, stamina, and muscle recovery Legal, safe, and effective for both men and women Stimulate metabolism to reduce body fat Explosive strength, power, and energy Increase or maintain muscle mass whether cutting or bulking Dextrose/maltodextrin free PurplEAA Complex: The Purple Wraath PurplEAA Complex is a very efficient formula based on the science of actual homo sapiens muscle protein and clinical studies on human amino acid assimilation. Essential Amino Acids (EAA's) are the "building blocks" of lean muscle mass, but the EAA's from whey protein can take hours to enter circulation. The solution is the Purple Wraath fast-acting, free-form PurplEAA Complex: While essential amino acids function cohesively as a group to aid in your training, additionally they each produce a significant benefit when it comes training: Leucine: - Primary anabolic trigger - Enhance recovery - Optimize hormone levels Valine: - Energy - Recovery - Glucose production - Nitrogen balance - Anti-inflammatory - Analgesic Isoleucine: - Energy - Recovery - Glucose production - Hormones Lysine: - Beta-oxidation - Nitrogen balance - Calcium absorption - Energy Arginine: - Vasodilator - Nutrient delivery - Anti-Catabolic Histidine: - Vasodilator - Sexual function Threonine: - Nutrient uptake - Immune system Methionine: - Enhance metabolism - Energy - Mood - Antioxidant Phenylalanine: - Energy - Hormones - Mood It's important to understand that our EAA Complex includes all of the BCAA's (Branched Chain Amino Acids) that you have used in the past, including a precise ratio of leucine. Research shows that blood levels of these KEY amino acids are directly related to muscle protein synthesis, so we formulated a comprehensive and efficient matrix to enhance lean mass directly and indirectly, and under various conditions. Now, that ratio is important, but there are some other very exciting points about this formula. Unlike some of the amino acid supplements on the market, you aren't paying for cheap "filler" ingredients such as dextrose or maltodextrin when you purchase Purple Wraath. Also, we chose not to include the amino acid glutamine since it is not an essential amino acid, and our bodies can synthesize it on its own in sufficient quantities. Because the studies that we based this formula off of do not use tryptophan and since it has the potential for "sedative" like side affects, we designed Purple Wraath to be completely tryptophan-free. By combining intense exercise or weightlifting with the fast absorbing PurplEAA Complex you can rush nutrients into the active cells of your working muscles, creating an anabolic environment optimal for recovery and lean mass. What would an EAA product be without some amazing support ingredients? Good, but not great. To make this formula great we added the PurplEndurance Complex. PurplEndurance Complex: You can't create an optimal anabolic environment without intensity so Controlled Labs decided to take things to the extreme with Purple Wraath by including the ultimate caffeine-free Ergogenic Complex: So what does each of the ingredients in the PurplEndurance Complex do? Beta-Alanine: - Helps increase aerobic efficiency - Helps enhance oxygen transport - Helps to reduce lactic acid accumulation Citrulline Malate: - Reduces Lactic Acid and Ammonia - Boosts energy production - Has an oxygen sparing effect - Boosts mitochondrial function Betaine Anhydrous: - Is a key osmotic/cellular hydration ingredient - Enhances muscle fullness - Acts as an energy enzyme protector - Induces the conversion of homocysteine to methionine - Elevates glutathione levels - Promotes liver health - Helps you maintain intracellular electrolytes - Enhances metabolism Ginger: - Aids in nutrient absorption - Enhances digestion/stomach function - Produces a nootropic effect Norvaline: - Helps elevate naturally occurring eNOS |
| Posted by: Jason2459 Jun 26 2009, 09:18 AM |
| To help give some background on me here is my app. for the products: Age: 33 Height: 5'10'' Weight: 215ish Why do you want to try Blue Gene: I like to try supplements that can help push me harder in training. Either directly through stimulants like caffeine or indirectly through reducing recovery times like Creatine and Beta Alanine. I would look forward to seeing what the addition of carnitine, carao, and catuaba would do to my typical creatine/beta alanine mix. Would also like to see how it stacks up to different supplements that I have tried through the different companies that I have mentioned above. Also, I like the addition of Cissus in the product. Will work great in conjunction with the joint support in Orange Triad I already take. What is the other supp of choice? Why did you pick this? I would say I'm most intrigued with Purple Wraath. I really like the benefits of Beta-alanine and have been testing different products that include it. Why do you think this supp of choice is a good stack to Blue Gene? I believe that product would work the best in combination with really anything. Other Supplements used and results: (What I most commonly use on a regular basis and why) Creatine - Faster recovery time between training sessions. I take 5g three times a day usually before and after I train and at night before bed. Beta Alanine - Faster recovery time between training sessions and better work capacity during training. I take 3g twice a day usually before and after I train. ZMA - helps me sleep which helps provide faster recovery. Take about 45m before bed and try to have an empty stomach. Do not take with calcium. Controlled Labs Orange Triad - Multi used through out the day so it's not a one time shot and piss away deal. Also provides joint support. I take 2 three times a day. Morning/Afternoon/Evening. Universal Real Gains - Weight Gainer with just the right amount of calories and great ingredient break down. Maltodextrin as the main carb not fructose/sucrose. Good protein mix of slow and fast digestion. Fats are MCT and from flax. Tastes great. Drink before and after I train and just before going to bed. Training experience (as much detail as possible.. TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF ! ! WHY should we choose you ! !): Here's my journal: http://forums.beyondmuscle.com/?showtopic=33911 Here's my youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/jason24590 I've been training for strength and relearned every I knew about lifting in the past two years. I train using the conjugate method and always evaluating myself and my training. If you want a quick break down of what I've done and gone through the past few years you can look at this post: http://forums.beyondmuscle.com/?showtopic=33911&view=findpost&p=600376 Currently my schedule looks like this: Sunday - DE or RE Bench Monday - ME SQ/DL Tuesday - Recovery/SPP/GPP extra work Wednesday - ME Bench Thursday - DE or RE SQ/DL Friday & Saturday - Recovery/SPP/GPP extra work Rotate DE and RE work as needed. Rotate in Deloading various ways here and there as needed. My Previous meet lifts: (All unequipped except for the one meet and listed as squat/bench/deadlift/ total) NASA Iowa Regional Oct '07: 419/254/441 1114 UPA Midwest Jan '08: 452/303/463 1218 NASA Iowa State April'08: 485/309/485 1279 UPA Midwest Jan '09: 534/363/480 1377 equipped NASA Iowa State April '09: 491/309/507 1307 Short Term Goal: My goals are constantly changing and all geared to lead me to my long term goal. Right now the long term goal is hitting a 1675lbs total @ 220lbs class unequipped. To get there right now I am aiming to break through a 1350 total by my January 2010 UPA Midwest Championship meet. By the NASA Iowa state meet in April I want to break through the 1400 mark. Along with that I have smaller individual lift goals. Squat I want to break the 500 mark as I'm only 9lbs shy. I would like to hit 335lbs bench in training and officially hit 315lbs in a meet. On the deadlift I'd like to break over 520lbs in my next meet. |
| Posted by: yeashescool Jun 26 2009, 03:40 PM |
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| Posted by: Jason2459 Jun 26 2009, 06:47 PM | ||
Questions? |
| Posted by: yeashescool Jun 26 2009, 08:48 PM |
| I'd like to comment that I did not like PW at all. It had no positive affect on me, only thing I ever got from it was a non stop face itch. Sry. Better luck to you. |
| Posted by: Jason2459 Jun 26 2009, 09:12 PM | ||
No that's cool. Thanks for the input. That was probably the beta alanine in it doing that. Just a guess though. I've had some good experience with beta alanine helping to keep me pushing harder through out a workout. We'll see how this works with all the other stuff in it. Not sure how much BA is in PW as it's part of a complex. I was taking about 4g a day though and doubt PW has near that much. |
| Posted by: Jason2459 Jun 26 2009, 09:15 PM |
| Just looked up the complex amount: PurplEndurance Complex™ 2700mg Beta Alanine, Citrulline Malate, Betaine Anhydrous, Ginger (From Root), L-Norvaline Shows BA as first ingredient to probably at least 1.5 - 2g of it in there. I would guess more to the 2g side. Will be taking it Pre-workout so will probably add another 2g of bulk BA in post-workout. |
| Posted by: Succio Jun 26 2009, 09:31 PM |
| blue gene is basically an endurance supplement? |
| Posted by: Jason2459 Jun 26 2009, 09:53 PM | ||
Suppose to be more for recovery and aid in boosting natural test levels like tribulus supposedly can. I've never gotten anything from tribbulus personally. I'm not expecting anything on that front but would love to help with recovery times. Always looking for a good supplement for that. Also, I like the addition of cissus which would go great with the joint support already in Orange Triad. Edit: I think I already said that somewhere. |
| Posted by: colin.muller Jun 29 2009, 08:57 AM |
| Jason, When will you be starting your intake of Blue gene and PW? I just ordered my blue gene after some research and recommendations and you may be a few days ahead of me in it by the time I get it. I'll be following this log, and also comparing it to my results, as I have a large amount of supplement experience and understand effects etc. Too bad I didn't get a sponsored bottle of blue gene like you did. |
| Posted by: Jason2459 Jun 29 2009, 09:00 AM | ||
I should be getting it in the mail today or tomorrow I'm told. |
| Posted by: colin.muller Jun 29 2009, 09:38 AM | ||||
Im doing a somewhat similar stack with Blue Gene, but Ive bought a bottle of resveratrol plus stacking with anadraulic state pre-workout. I'll keep you updated on it. I considered PW, but thought it was too many basic ingredients that i could mix myself so decided on anadraulic state. Hope you get what youre looking for |
| Posted by: Jason2459 Jun 29 2009, 10:07 AM | ||||||
Sounds good. Someone mentioned taking Reservatrol with Blue Gene in another thread. I'm not to familiar with it. I'll just be sticking with the two products, add in a bit more beta alanine, creatine, multi vit., and ZMA. Pretty much what I normally take. |
| Posted by: Jason2459 Jun 30 2009, 12:52 PM |
| Just got the sups in. Just took one scoop of Purple Wraath for today. Taste isn't as bad as I thought it would be. Not like grape juice by any means but bearable by itself. Looks like I'll take the 5 caps of Blue Gene right when I wake up. Just before workout I'll drink my protein/carb/creatine shake. Drink 2 scoops of the Purple Wraath during workout. Then drink my protein/carb/creatine shake after I workout. Off day's I'll do 5 tabs when I wake up still and 1 scoop of the PW w/ some creatine. Every day I'll still be taking my Orange Triad 2 tabs 3x a day and ZMA just before bed. |
| Posted by: colin.muller Jun 30 2009, 11:37 PM | ||
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| Posted by: Jason2459 Jul 1 2009, 05:53 AM | ||||
I have no idea but we'll see. I'm not really looking for huge gains or anything unrealistic here. I'm just looking for any kind of reaction or difference at all, especially in recovery ability. I do remember the directions talk about going through two bottles and then taking a break from it for a bit. |
| Posted by: Jason2459 Jul 1 2009, 08:05 AM |
| Week 1/Day 3 B/W:214 Time to complete workout: 40m ME Bench Floor Press severalxseveral@bar 1x5@135, , 155, 185 1x1@225 1x3@225 1x1@245, 275, 295, 305 PR 1xmiss@315 Ass. Band bar Rows 1x12@90 1x6@135 2x12@90 Tricep Pushdowns 1x100 w/ mini band Band Pull aparts 4x15 w/ mini band Vid: Will upload later tonight. Comments Felt good this morning in training with plenty of energy which is not how it started. Almost slept in but dragged myself out of bed. Got the Controlled Labs products they sent me to try out yesterday. Took 5 tabs of Blue Gene yesterday afternoon and then again this morning as soon as I got up. Then drank 34oz of water with 2 scoops of Purple Wraath in it through out my training. Tasted a bit better with more water. Still has a tad bitter and aftertaste to it but not terrible. Definitely needs a bit to totally dissolve. |
| Posted by: dayday87 Jul 1 2009, 03:36 PM | ||
Im guessing you don't do cardio do you? If so, how long before you take your pre W/O shake before cardioing it up? I always puke if I do cardio within an hour of taking any kind of shake. |
| Posted by: Jason2459 Jul 1 2009, 03:47 PM | ||||
on my off days, Tusdays/Thursdays/Saturdays, I do a lot of conditioning work, recovery work, or pre-rehab work. The conditioning work can be seen as GPP or cardio. Gets the heart rate up usually that's for sure. It could be doing anything from getting on an eliptical, dragging a sled with weight in it various ways, or high rep band circuits. It's usually first thing in the morning too but normally don't do a pre workout shake cause I will puke it up. I usually drink like a propell during and then a typical post workotu shake. I'll be sippingn on the Purple Wraath for now with just one scoop in it as I think the two scoops would be to strong of a taste and make me puke. |
| Posted by: Jason2459 Jul 1 2009, 07:27 PM |
| Here's the floor press and band bar row vid from this morning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3TtRwuzKb0 |
| Posted by: Jason2459 Jul 3 2009, 09:00 AM |
| Week 1/Day 4 B/W:??? Time to complete workout: 48m DE SQ/DL = Box Squats 1xseveral@bar 1xseveral@135 Strong bands added 1x3@135 2x2@225 4x2@275 2x1@315 1x1@365 Deads short breaks Alternate Sumo/Conv Sumo. 4x1@225 Conv. 4x1@225 Ass. Pull Throughs 4x10 w/ strong band Hanging Leg Raises 1x16, 12, 8, 8 Vid: Will upload later tonight. Comments Did not think I was going to get up this morning. ZMA can bring on some crazy dreaming. I woke up at around 3am and pissed off because I was wide awake and really hard to get back to sleep. Definitely fell back to sleep after 4am. Which I normally get up about 5am. But in that time frame I got some messed up dreams. Ended up dreaming my alarm was going off and I couldn't shut it off. So, I thought I was totally awake and getting pissed off I couldn't get the alarm to shut off. So, I went out and trained anyway. But then realized I kept hearing the alarm go off and was like WTF I'm out in the garage and shouldn't be able to hear that damn alarm!! Then I realized I'm probably still dreaming. So I start screaming at myself to WAKE UP!!! I finally woke up and went to the bathroom. Then noticed the toilet was all clogged up and I really had to go bad. So, I was desperately trying to unclog it with a plunger when I started to hear the damn alarm again!!!! WTF I'm still alseep!!!! So I start yelling at myself again to WAKE UP A$$HOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally actually woke up and was a bit late getting started. So, now I'm wondering if I even actually woke up at 3am or I was just dreaming I woke up and was getting frustrated?!?!?! Training did feel good though this morning and didn't get drained at all. So, I'm guessing I didn't actually wake up but sure felt like I did. Guess we'll never know. Maybe I'm still sleeping... maybe we're all just a dream of someone else.... |
| Posted by: Jason2459 Jul 3 2009, 04:49 PM |
| This mornings DE SQ/DL session: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guKtd3c4kbU |
| Posted by: Jason2459 Jul 6 2009, 02:46 PM |
| Week 2/Day 2 B/W:212 Temp89f Time to complete workout: 53m ME SQ/DL Zercher Pulls from 4pin 1xsevera@bar 1x5@135, 185 1x3@225, 245 1x1@275, 295, 315, 335, 365, 385 PR! Front Squats 1xseveral@bar 1x5@135, 225, 225, 275 1x3@315 PR Ass. GHR 1x8 2x6 1x8 Hanging Leg Raises 5x8 Vid: Will upload later tonight. Comments Totally beat up after this weekend. Yesterday I did a quick a basic workout. Nothing worth mentioning. Some quick sets of DE bench followed by a quick band circuit. Didn't have much time and already was worn out. Did get much sleep last night and should have taken some anti inflammatory or something. My entire back is throbbing, forearms were cramping up yesterday along with my quads. Was not looking forward today's max effort lower day. Woke up and decided to try and train over lunch which was a good idea. Been doing a lot of stretching at work and trying to loosen up a bit. The zercher pulls were torture to the back. After those and the front squats I had to lay down for a bit as I could barely walk because of the back pump. Last set on the Zerchers my left glut cramped up big time as well. Was not a fun day. I did do more on the front squat then I've done before and ended up with two PR's for the day so it was all worth it. On another note, I've totally gotten used to the Purple Wraath's taste and don't mind it one bit. Just use a full 34-36oz of water with it. Also, totally different subject, I'm looking at rebuilding a fish aquarium again after a bit of some nudging from the wife, she knows I loved it, and really excited about that. I had one at my old house but lost it in the flood. I guess you can say that is one of my favorite hobbies. I can sit in front of a fish tank for hours and never get bored. |
| Posted by: colin.muller Aug 1 2009, 10:37 AM |
| Jason, I'd like to hear about your experience so far with Blue Gene. I'm almost out on my bottle supply of BG and also resveratrol. I have enjoyed it and gotten some good recovery from it. But looking to my next stack, so i wanted to see what you think on the PW and BG stack. Or is there anything else worth looking at and trying in the natural area of supps? |