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Posted on Sep 4 2009, 06:33 PM
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Cynostane: Helping Build a Better You!

Rapid Muscle Grown

Rock Hard Physique

INSANE Strength

Maximize Fat Loss

Enhance Endurance

Build a Better You
Anabolic Innovations Cynostane is the first release in AI's Black Label. If you are looking to take your workout's, strength gains, and lean muscle mass to new heights then get ready, Cynostane is here to take you there. Cynostane is, however, a very potent compound and should not be used by those new to weightlifting/bodybuilding.

Supplement Facts:

Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings per Container: 90

Amount Per Serving:
2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-androst-3-one - 10mg

Other Ingredients: Gelatin (capsule), microcrystalline cellulose

Directions:

As a dietary supplement, take 2 to 3 capsules daily as needed or as directed by your physician.


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Posted on Sep 7 2009, 08:35 PM
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Okay other than the "cyano" in this compound this looks like just another superdrol clone so what makes it different or better than any other s-drol supplement?
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Posted on Sep 7 2009, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE (Badman5 @ Sep 7 2009, 08:35 PM)
Okay other than the "cyano" in this compound this looks like just another superdrol clone so what makes it different or better than any other s-drol supplement?

2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-androst-3-one - 10mg

SD is double methylated, whereas Cynostane has a methyl and cyano "function group".

At least this is what my brotelligence comes up with.

The slightest change in a molecule can drastically alter physiological effects.

Ex. 1-Testosterone vs. Methyl-1-Testosterone, EQ vs. Dianabol (methylated boldenone), etc.

According to the label, this is not the same molecule as superdrol.

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Posted on Sep 7 2009, 10:16 PM
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More than likely, prob just another clone and will produce the same results as any other steroid. I fail to see anything special, but im assuming this.

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Posted on Sep 8 2009, 12:17 AM
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It's always good to see something new. I'll have to do a little reading into it and see what the word on it is. Hopefully it'll be something new and different than what we've seen so far.

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QUOTE (yeashescool @ Sep 7 2009, 10:16 PM)
More than likely, prob just another clone and will produce the same results as any other steroid. I fail to see anything special, but im assuming this.

A clone of what? Not SD. Unless "cyano" is nomenclature for "methyl". And your statement doesn't make any sense... "produce same results as any other steroid" ?? If everything had the same effects, there would be only one steroid.

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Posted on Sep 8 2009, 12:58 PM
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Shakes, I'm watching the same log on this that you are. Looks like we'll get plenty of detailed info on this stuff.

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Posted on Sep 8 2009, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE (ShakesAllDay @ Sep 8 2009, 07:40 AM)
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More than likely, prob just another clone and will produce the same results as any other steroid. I fail to see anything special, but im assuming this.

A clone of what? Not SD. Unless "cyano" is nomenclature for "methyl". And your statement doesn't make any sense... "produce same results as any other steroid" ?? If everything had the same effects, there would be only one steroid.

Why do you disagree with everything?

Do you honestly think this is going to be the best PH out?


I meant it's nothing special. Gain a couple of pounds, side effects, and keep whatever you can hold on to. Like i said, the same as everything else.

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Posted on Sep 8 2009, 06:26 PM
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Does anyone know what this drug is comparable to, as far as gains?

Anyone have the anabolic/androgenic ratio of it?


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Why do you disagree with everything?


I don't.

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I never said anything close to that.

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I meant it's nothing special. Gain a couple of pounds, side effects, and keep whatever you can hold on to. Like i said, the same as everything else.


Just because you can't gain on copious amounts of steroids doesn't mean others cannot.

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QUOTE (Jayv24 @ Sep 8 2009, 06:26 PM)
Does anyone know what this drug is comparable to, as far as gains?

Anyone have the anabolic/androgenic ratio of it?

I think I saw somewhere it was like 800:80 anabolic:androgenic.

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QUOTE (ShakesAllDay @ Sep 8 2009, 07:49 PM)
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Does anyone know what this drug is comparable to, as far as gains?

Anyone have the anabolic/androgenic ratio of it?

I think I saw somewhere it was like 800:80 anabolic:androgenic.

Yeah, the guy running a log of it looked it up in Vida and seems to be halfway knowledgeable about it. He quoted that A:A ratio from there. Looks great on paper, but the logs will tell us the rest of the story.

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QUOTE (ShakesAllDay @ Sep 7 2009, 09:17 PM)
QUOTE (Badman5 @ Sep 7 2009, 08:35 PM)
Okay other than the "cyano" in this compound this looks like just another superdrol clone so what makes it different or better than any other s-drol supplement?

2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-androst-3-one - 10mg

SD is double methylated, whereas Cynostane has a methyl and cyano "function group".

At least this is what my brotelligence comes up with.

The slightest change in a molecule can drastically alter physiological effects.

Ex. 1-Testosterone vs. Methyl-1-Testosterone, EQ vs. Dianabol (methylated boldenone), etc.

According to the label, this is not the same molecule as superdrol.

methyl EQ is Boldenone actetate, the whole dbol is methyl EQ is a myth. Just pointing that out. they have some structural similarities but they are completely different compounds by structure and mechanisms of action. I just wanted to clear up that bit of misinformation. No disrespect shakes smile.gif

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Posted on Sep 9 2009, 03:15 AM
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QUOTE (DownTown @ Sep 8 2009, 10:15 PM)
I just wanted to clear up that bit of misinformation.  No disrespect shakes  smile.gif

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Yeah, the guy running a log of it looked it up in Vida and seems to be halfway knowledgeable about it. He quoted that A:A ratio from there. Looks great on paper, but the logs will tell us the rest of the story.


Absolutely dude. Pics dont lie. You o happen thave any links to these logs? Are they over at AM? If so i'll search tomorrow.

Speaking of "On Paper"....A lot of things DO NOT make sense to me. This new gear is 800:80 which sounds extremely anabolic.

But then you look at something like Halo which is shitty for mass, and its 1900:850 blink.gif

Dbol, a mass gear @ 150:50

Winny, 320:30...mostly anabolic yet NOBODY uses it for bulking.

Does anyone here know if the Anabolic ratio dictates how strongly it will bind to the AR? Or are the numbers irrelevant to that?

Well, I havent really heard much hype over this new designer.

Which is probably a plus when you think of all the rep hype over The One.

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Yeah, this has been the anti-hype ph. Kind of refreshing after The One, 3-AD (the first one that never actually came out), etc. It's over at AM by a guy w/ the handle Trauma1. He's widely known as a straight shooter that puts together very detailed logs, so I'm following it.

It'll be at least 3 months before I run anything as I'm halfway through a PCT right now, but this stuff might be promising for a future run.

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I'll check that out on AM.

Hopefully he keeps his logs thorough.

What did you use during your last cycle?


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QUOTE (Jayv24 @ Sep 9 2009, 03:27 AM)
I'll check that out on AM.

Hopefully he keeps his logs thorough.

What did you use during your last cycle?

I did epi and transdermal 4-AD. Went pretty well, but I think I messed up my dosage of the 4-AD due to a good bit of the mixed solution having evaporated. I gained a decent amount of mass, which has largely been kept about 2 weeks into PCT so far.

Another kind of unplanned thing was running out of nolva after a week at 40 mg. I did have torem on hand, so I dosed that at 120 for 4 days and will do 60 for a couple more weeks. i think that should be fine, if kind of disorganized. Gotta get my stuff laid out a little better next time around.

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QUOTE (DownTown @ Sep 8 2009, 10:15 PM)
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Okay other than the "cyano" in this compound this looks like just another superdrol clone so what makes it different or better than any other s-drol supplement?

2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-androst-3-one - 10mg

SD is double methylated, whereas Cynostane has a methyl and cyano "function group".

At least this is what my brotelligence comes up with.

The slightest change in a molecule can drastically alter physiological effects.

Ex. 1-Testosterone vs. Methyl-1-Testosterone, EQ vs. Dianabol (methylated boldenone), etc.

According to the label, this is not the same molecule as superdrol.

methyl EQ is Boldenone actetate, the whole dbol is methyl EQ is a myth. Just pointing that out. they have some structural similarities but they are completely different compounds by structure and mechanisms of action. I just wanted to clear up that bit of misinformation. No disrespect shakes smile.gif

I like learning. I've read that at every major board I've visited. You are the first person to say otherwise.

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"A simple way to think of Equipoise, chemically at least, is simply as Dianabol without the 17-alpha-methyl group "

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QUOTE (Jayv24 @ Sep 9 2009, 03:15 AM)
Does anyone here know if the Anabolic ratio dictates how strongly it will bind to the AR? Or are the numbers irrelevant to that?

I've read that the ratios are a starting place, but not to give them too much weight. Of course, I'm not a steroid guru and just pass along some info I pick up from reading on the Net. I try to disseminate the good info from the bad, but as DT pointed out, sometimes I FAIL! laugh.gif

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DT, i gotta disagree with you there.

Methyl EQ is dianabol. If you check out the structural formula,
there is an added methyl group (carbon) attached right next to the same carbon as the hydroxy group.

Thats the only difference.

Boldenone acetate is NOT methyl EQ, because acetate is an ester with 2 oxygens (one double bonded, the other bonded to the larger carbon chain) and then there are 2 carbons inside that ester.

Adding the ester simply raises oral bioavailability because it allows the entire compound to be lipophillic.


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