http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/blacked/...on=progresspics

check out this guys pics. looks at his Jan 1, 2009 pics then look 10 months later Oct 12, 2009 pics

i know he is not enormous like a monster, but is it just black guys that can get fit natty this fast? plus he hasnt even started his bulk yet he is just cutting.

im not black, but im no longer natty, i fucked that up a long time ago & ive forgoten how its like to be natty again. i admit most of the time i feel like i have to rely on aas to see "FAST" & dramatic results. knowin if this guy can get fit this fast naturally gives me hope when im not on the gears & that i dont have to feel that i need to rely on them.

10 months is a pretty long time to make that kind of transformation. It looked like he started with a decent build covered in fat.

He may or may not be geared. It's very possible he is not.

Most people want that kind of transformation in 2 months instead of 10. That's where "help" comes in.

yea that true 10 months is a long time, plus he just started working out. i remember gains arent so hard at the beggining. but i also have to admit its been a long time since i done it natty i feel like ive built up a mental addiction to it.


i like what u said about the time frame, that most use "help" just to get things done in a faster 2 month time period. not the fact that u need them

it probably has a lot less to do with his race, and more to do with the fact he's probably a mesomorph, who finally took training seriously. 10 months is plenty of time to get in really good shape. Look at people who do 16 weeks of Marine Bootcamp.

16 weeks of marine boot camp aint going to really change your physic that much, i know this for a fact.

But we bred black people that way, it sounds bad but it is true. back in the slave days the masters would pair up the healthiest and most fit slaves and make them breed. Over the many years there bodies also adapted to the hard manual labor and gave them a naturaly faster response to rebuild there bodies after a hard days work.

White people could do that same but most are just to damn lazy. Look at familys that own farms and raise live stock, over the generations they have bred and adapted to that kind of work which eventually led to the Corn Fed mo fo's that had never lifted wieghts before highschool and they are huge and strong as fuck. I had a few kids like that in my school, they were some bad ass football players too.

DT, i was going to say that. Blacks were originally bred for their strength for slavery. Ive read much about this and unfortunately they have much better strength genetics than our drunken european ancestors.

Genetics obviously play a role, but there are also a lot of Caucasians that get built very quickly.

Jimmy the Greek said the same thing back in the 80's and caught hell from the media, owners, etc. It's pretty much true, but just unpopular to say.

There's a reason most of the successful basketball and football players are black, not white.

There is no denying the fact that, in general, the black population has better genetics in re: physical ability.

I don't understand how people pull the race card when things like this are brought up. The Chinese have what, one player in the NBA? There's a reason for that, too.

And, you cannot put this on "environment", like people do with lower education levels and higher crime rates w/ black people. Genetics are genetics... no denying that.

Bunch of racists.

Well i think that black people reach there genetic potential much quicker, BUT as we have seen time and time again at the Olympia, caucasians natural limit may take long to reach but it is leaps and bounds ahead of the MONDAYS.

Poor breeding = America

Im down for super humans (doesnt matter what race)

For the most part, africans are sparsely built. Eastern africans especially (somalia, ethiopia etc)

It doesnt pay to be bulky in tropical climates really. The body shape of preference in sub saharan africa would be a tall, thin individual suited for long walking and running.

When the Krakas came and bargained with the kings, they took the most athletic individuals to act like workhorses in the fields.

So 400-500 yrs of fucking and what have you.....and you have some bigguns. Plus the diet has improved since then. more fat and protein + athletic genes = NFL

No but seriously, African blacks arent similar in body type to american blacks.

The biggest, strongest people on the planet are Europeans. Period. Particularly Northern europeans.

Asians got screwed.

Jay Cutler was younger than Ronnie, and smoked him. Marcus Ruhl big ass mofo. Stan Efferding it the REAL strongest pro BB'er, he has broken numberous world records in un assisted lifts, and is younger than Jonny Jackson and bigger too. Branch Warren, second place at the O, beat the pants off of Kia Green. I could go on but the point is that the black BBers are great to a certain point then they cess to improve. In Ronnies case he was so desperate to continue growing he was using 160+ mcgs of IGF, and 50+ ui's of hgh and using so much slin that his private doctor had to treat him in his own house to keep it under wraps, and look wat happend he ended up looking like he was carrying Twins when he walked on stage, and he lost, and still cant get his gut under control. They reach there peak faster. Kevin Levrone was a mix breed that could have reigned forever in pro bodybuilding, but personal issues and some health problems caused him to retire.

A true mixed race BB'er would probly usher in a new era of body builders.

Is Levrone still doing that "natural" comeback thing?