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Posted: Oct 19 2009, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (DownTown @ Oct 15 2009, 04:39 PM)
16 weeks of marine boot camp aint going to really change your physic that much, i know this for a fact.

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The USMC overtrains and under-feeds. I went to bootcamp doing 18 pullups weighing 193 lbs. and I left bootcamp doing 12 pullups weighing something like 173 or less (it's been 12 years).

I was definitely leaner but I burned alot of muscle in the process.

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Posted: Oct 20 2009, 10:03 AM
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16 weeks of marine boot camp aint going to really change your physic that much, i know this for a fact.

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The USMC overtrains and under-feeds. I went to bootcamp doing 18 pullups weighing 193 lbs. and I left bootcamp doing 12 pullups weighing something like 173 or less (it's been 12 years).

I was definitely leaner but I burned alot of muscle in the process.

I thought USMC basic training was only 12 weeks?

We've had it fairly easy up here...about 20 days basic training for land forces...officers get trained and then are placed into an assessment program which I think is pretty much paper and pen trainiing.

Our commando units are trained by USMC wink.gif

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Posted: Oct 20 2009, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE (DownTown @ Oct 15 2009, 04:39 PM)
16 weeks of marine boot camp aint going to really change your physic that much, i know this for a fact.

But we bred black people that way, it sounds bad but it is true. back in the slave days the masters would pair up the healthiest and most fit slaves and make them breed. Over the many years there bodies also adapted to the hard manual labor and gave them a naturaly faster response to rebuild there bodies after a hard days work.

White people could do that same but most are just to damn lazy. Look at familys that own farms and raise live stock, over the generations they have bred and adapted to that kind of work which eventually led to the Corn Fed mo fo's that had never lifted wieghts before highschool and they are huge and strong as fuck. I had a few kids like that in my school, they were some bad ass football players too.

Did you go through boot camp as a Marine? Blacks actually have a higher obesity rate than whites, so they aren't automatically leaner than europeans

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Posted: Oct 20 2009, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE (ShakesAllDay @ Oct 16 2009, 09:18 AM)
There's a reason most of the successful basketball and football players are black, not white.

There is no denying the fact that, in general, the black population has better genetics in re: physical ability.

I don't understand how people pull the race card when things like this are brought up. The Chinese have what, one player in the NBA? There's a reason for that, too.

And, you cannot put this on "environment", like people do with lower education levels and higher crime rates w/ black people. Genetics are genetics... no denying that.

You also have to factor in culture and desire. For many young black men, success in the NBA is often seen as their only path to success. MLB has significantly more whites than blacks, does that mean blacks aren't good at baseball?

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16 weeks of marine boot camp aint going to really change your physic that much, i know this for a fact.

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The USMC overtrains and under-feeds. I went to bootcamp doing 18 pullups weighing 193 lbs. and I left bootcamp doing 12 pullups weighing something like 173 or less (it's been 12 years).

I was definitely leaner but I burned alot of muscle in the process.

My point was that significant changes can occur in relatively short time frames given extreme changes in lifestyle.

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Posted: Oct 20 2009, 11:09 AM
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good posts...


I think:

1. western africans were selectively breed to be healthy and strong to do physical labor. If you were doing this, of course you would select the healthiest, and most athletic type of people, with good muscle tone and void of disease. if you breed large dogs to be stronger and faster, you would select certain ones. it creates a gene pool.

2. also, it is known this group collectively makes more LH than other ppl.


higher obesity rates and diabetes and high blood pressure is attributed to diet and lifestyle. ppl didnt eat twinkies and salty french fries and other processed garbage before. in europeans, yes, in other ppl's, not quite to the extent. just like native americans are more prone to alcohol issues (ie addiction, intolerable in small amounts)...

whites have been exposed to high carb, high fat foods for longer, most likely. ppl's of otgher areas had diets which were unlike those of today, hence the issues from the dramatic change.
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QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Oct 20 2009, 10:20 AM)
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There's a reason most of the successful basketball and football players are black, not white.

There is no denying the fact that, in general, the black population has better genetics in re: physical ability.

I don't understand how people pull the race card when things like this are brought up.  The Chinese have what, one player in the NBA?  There's a reason for that, too.

And, you cannot put this on "environment", like people do with lower education levels and higher crime rates w/ black people.  Genetics are genetics... no denying that.

You also have to factor in culture and desire. For many young black men, success in the NBA is often seen as their only path to success. MLB has significantly more whites than blacks, does that mean blacks aren't good at baseball?

Basketball courts are probably a lot more common than a baseball field in the hood also. Little league baseball is white surburia shit for the most part I would think.

Plus you need to have the ball, bats, and gloves which would cost more than a basketball.

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Posted: Oct 20 2009, 03:10 PM
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baseball is huge in the caribbean, they are dirt poor and sometimes use extremely old gloves, or no gloves, old wood bats or sticks ect...


but yeah, you need area to play baseball, basketball requires less space.
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QUOTE (DownTown @ Oct 18 2009, 07:20 PM)
Jay Cutler was younger than Ronnie, and smoked him. Marcus Ruhl big ass mofo. Stan Efferding it the REAL strongest pro BB'er, he has broken numberous world records in un assisted lifts, and is younger than Jonny Jackson and bigger too. Branch Warren, second place at the O, beat the pants off of Kia Green. I could go on but the point is that the black BBers are great to a certain point then they cess to improve. In Ronnies case he was so desperate to continue growing he was using 160+ mcgs of IGF, and 50+ ui's of hgh and using so much slin that his private doctor had to treat him in his own house to keep it under wraps, and look wat happend he ended up looking like he was carrying Twins when he walked on stage, and he lost, and still cant get his gut under control. They reach there peak faster. Kevin Levrone was a mix breed that could have reigned forever in pro bodybuilding, but personal issues and some health problems caused him to retire.

A true mixed race BB'er would probly usher in a new era of body builders.

Damn 50iu's is a lot of HGH. Most of us could make a cycle out of what he uses in a day. How did you find out this stuff Dt?
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Posted: Oct 20 2009, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Oct 20 2009, 03:10 PM)
baseball is huge in the caribbean, they are dirt poor and sometimes use extremely old gloves, or no gloves, old wood bats or sticks ect...


but yeah, you need area to play baseball, basketball requires less space.

probably 7 of the 10 fastest men alive are black, but that doesn't mean all black men are inherently gifted at athletics or naturally lean and buff. This guy is an obvious mesomorph. Part of what makes latin caribbean players so good is the hunger to make it in baseball as a way to escape poverty.

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Posted: Oct 21 2009, 07:52 AM
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Part of what makes latin caribbean players so good is the hunger to make it in baseball as a way to escape poverty.



good point...true
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In any aspect of life, it's very hard to pinpoint one single factor that predicts an outcome. For example the endurance athlete with the highest VO2 max is not always the athlete who wins, especially in running events. Success in athletics comes down to many factors, some dna can explain, some culture can, and some come from psychological make up of athletes.

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Posted: Oct 22 2009, 01:54 PM
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azfit, also, how about shear will, and determination, as in mind set...???
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He just said that. What do you think he means by psychological makeup?

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Posted: Oct 22 2009, 07:40 PM
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How did i know about Ronnie? Well im not at liberty to talk about the circumstances of how i got the information, but most national and pro BB'ers know about his abuse of peptides and slin.

Also i didnt mean 16 weeks it was a typo, i was in boot for 5 months because i fought my DI, not a smart choice. I wound up with 3 fractures so i had to spend extra time there to heal.

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Posted: Oct 22 2009, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE (DownTown @ Oct 22 2009, 07:40 PM)
I wound up with 3 fractures so i had to spend extra time there to heal.

Are you by chance Mr. Glass?

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Posted: Oct 23 2009, 08:17 AM
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DT, you fought a drill instructor, and he broke 3 bones in your body?


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when I was in army boot camp, this one kid pointed his rifle towards a drill sargeant instead of keeping it down range.... yeah he got jacked up pretty good!
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QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:54 PM)
azfit, also, how about shear will, and determination, as in mind set...???

Hence, psychological make up.

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QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Oct 23 2009, 08:17 AM)
DT, you fought a drill instructor, and he broke 3 bones in your body?


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when I was in army boot camp, this one kid pointed his rifle towards a drill sargeant instead of keeping it down range.... yeah he got jacked up pretty good!

Oh man, Range time was the best. I remember my hot brass flying out and down my battle buddies shirt as he laid next to me in the prone position. Our company was low budget. No brass deflectors.

He ends up screaming and jumping up, flailing around wildly. The range NCO screams at him over the PA. Then the DS makes him low crawl the length of a football field with his rifle, the whole time yelling at him and abusing him. awesome. laugh.gif

I always swore that someone was gonna pull a private Pile on a DS. Like, how would anyone stop it from happening?

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Posted: Oct 23 2009, 05:01 PM
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WTF is a brass deflector? The corps dont waste money on pansy shit, that money goes towards things like ammo and M203's maybe even a SMAW.

Also when your 145lbs fighting a 230lbs DI on roids ( we found his dbol spilled in his gym bag) you dont really stand much of a chance. The guy was F'king insane anyways.

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