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Posted: Oct 23 2009, 05:48 PM
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fuck this military talk makes me wish i had been thru buds now and was a SEAL... I would give anything to be in the military.. You have to deal with CoC bullshit, but its the fucking life for single guys who are adrelane(sp) junkies.
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Posted: Oct 23 2009, 09:23 PM
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Dude for the most part the military is boring, the only cool shit is when you deploy. Most of the time you sit around and bullshit, and wait for the SNCO's and officers to release you for the day.

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Posted: Oct 24 2009, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Oct 20 2009, 10:21 AM)
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16 weeks of marine boot camp aint going to really change your physic that much, i know this for a fact.

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The USMC overtrains and under-feeds. I went to bootcamp doing 18 pullups weighing 193 lbs. and I left bootcamp doing 12 pullups weighing something like 173 or less (it's been 12 years).

I was definitely leaner but I burned alot of muscle in the process.

My point was that significant changes can occur in relatively short time frames given extreme changes in lifestyle.

good point then. =)

If the USMC gave us innoculations of AAS and had a smarter training regime, I think I would have come out looking jacked and tan. Instead I came out tan and skinny.

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Posted: Oct 24 2009, 06:11 PM
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The DoD is actually starting to rethink some of their training strategies. In a decade you'll see bootcamp pt closer to something like crossfit than the old school training regimens.

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Posted: Oct 25 2009, 12:00 AM
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^ Wrong, actually the training is becoming more combat oreinted. This is why they have recently started the CFT, Combat Fitness Test. I dont see how crossfit would actually help some one in combat, or help marines pull some one out of a blown up M-RAP, or throw a grenade. The new training consists of load bearing manuvers, manuver under fire, sprints, ammo can lifts, grenade throwing, and MCMAP is soon to become part of the CFT as well. It might help if you would read the Military times.

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Posted: Oct 25 2009, 12:12 AM
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Meaning the fitness is less about outdated endurance training and over training, and more about functional real world strength measure that enable them to be competant in multiple aspects of fitness. Have you actually looked at crossfit and similar types of training? The point of cross fit is to prepare people for multiple types of physical challenges. They do sprints. heavy lifting, olympic lifting, and lot's of rope cli,bing, pull ups, and odd object lifting like sand bags, kettle bells etc. Programs like CF are part of the model for CFT

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Posted: Oct 25 2009, 12:39 AM
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If you were IN the military you might have noticed, but these cross fit fags at the gym never do well during our standardized testing. Also the injury rating for cross fit is through the roof, im sure the military wants to have a bunch of injured marines that cant deploy. I dont know where you are getting your info from but you might wanna check your sources, or talk to a base general that could properly inform you.

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Posted: Oct 25 2009, 11:50 AM
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You seem to be focusing on crossfitm specifically. I simply stated cf as an example of the style of training the DoD is going towards now, as opposed to the old style training. I'm getting my info from exercise physiologists who are actually working with the DoD to plan for the future. It's including more odd lift lifting (like sand bags, anthtropometric bodies etc) sprint intervals, more agility training, and more functional based power and weight training, which is similar to some (not all) the things CF and OTHER training programs are doing. Go back and read my posts.

The standardized tests favor the old style of training, and also the old style of training has a high injury rate as well, which is why the DoD is moving towards a more functional form of training.

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Posted: Oct 25 2009, 01:44 PM
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i agree with azz on this one. Mabybe no the reg military or navy, but SEALS,SPECIAL FORCES, NSW, ETC. My SEAL mentor would actually have anyone after taking the PST allow them to join him in his crossfit workout. And shit is physically endurance taking it as far as you want, and thats exactly the type of units listed above need.
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Posted: Oct 25 2009, 02:22 PM
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When I was in "the suck" (aka the Marine Corps) the PFT consisted of a 3 mile run, dead-hang pullups and then situps which were later replaced with crunches.

100% = 18 minute 3 mile run (6 minute per mile average).
20 pullups
100 situps in 2 minutes


Before I even left for bootcamp I was doing 18 pullups and 100 situps @ a bodyweight of approximately 190. My run was the worst, I think it was around 23-25 minutes, which isn't too bad for a lifelong asthmatic who isn't really "built" for running.

When we were first assigned to our platoon, I think the drill instructors tried to classify me in with the "fat bodies" by just looking at me. I vaguely remember them telling me something and then gathering all of the fat-kids up at the front of the squad bay, but I didn't walk up when I was supposed to. Later the drill instructor came to me and asked if I was supposed to be in with that group and I denied any knowledge of it.

I believe they put the fat kids on a restricted meal plan...even without being on the restricted plan I dropped a substantial amount of weight.

Leaving bootcamp my run was down to 20:10, which impressed the hell out of me, my weight was down too and my pullups were down to 12.

I never really understood how good pullups were for combat or situps or crunches for that matter. The run seemed pretty important, endurance like carrying lots of heavy shit for long distances seemed important. The ability to navigate obstacles would be important...but pullups? It's not often that I see myself trying to lift just my bodyweight vertically...but whatever.

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Posted: Oct 25 2009, 02:43 PM
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The DoD is starting to re examine the need for such endurance based fitness. Especially as combat has progessively moved towards either moutainous terrain (afghanistan) or close combat in urban area's (Iraq, Bosnia, Mogadishu). The needs of the modern combatant are short burst power (running between buildings) carrying heavy loads, pulling heavy loads (carrying wounded troops), and total body real world strength and functionality (climbing difficult terrain, carrying wounded troops, climbing walls and obstacles etc). The DoD is trying to modify fitness to train for these things.

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Posted: Oct 26 2009, 11:48 AM
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NOTHING LIKE GETTING WAYYYY OFF TRACK, EH? laugh.gif

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Posted: Oct 26 2009, 03:45 PM
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Pull ups are the ultimate test of upper body strength, depending on your job inthe MC would also depend on your veiw of them. Ive had to climb up the side of a canyon with a 75lb mobile GBS system to place it. Pull ups definitly helped me in that aspect of my job. Climbing walls, ridges, hills, mountains etc, require alot of upper body strength, i thank god they stuffed pull ups down my throat for these past years, cuz without them my ass would have fallen off a building or two.

Also from what my base general( a marine, not a pansy ass civilain) has told me, the marine corps is going to be implementing weight training into our world of pt, since tests have recently shown that the past training has seriously neglegted raw power and aimed more towards endurance. The marine corps is going to be a little stricter about enlisting scrawny etheopians that can run fast but cant carry anymore than there own body wieght.

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Posted: Oct 26 2009, 03:52 PM
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Pull ups are good test of strength and endurance. A better test of pure strength would be the over head press. Either way, the point is that the DoD like the Corps, is starting to see that pure endurance is not useful

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Posted: Oct 27 2009, 07:46 AM
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BEING A CIVILIAN DOESNT MAKE A PANSY mad.gif


Ive been owned by uncle sam, and a civilian, too, and the only difference is a title.

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Posted: Oct 27 2009, 12:43 PM
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is it true that if your race is black, most likely ur dick is bigger then the next person from another race? ohmy.gif






fucking bastards

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Posted: Oct 27 2009, 01:15 PM
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mustang six nine.....


it comes down to two factors:

1. how much testosterone did you have in your body at puberty which dictates secondary sex characteristics.

2. genetics



race has nothing to do with it, it is hormonal and genetic. Not all black guys have huge cocks laugh.gif some have small ones.... just ask your mom! rolleyes.gif JK dawg
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Posted: Oct 27 2009, 01:25 PM
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ya its true the cock thing, some black guys have big'uns and some white guys have big'uns. The only true stereo type with that is that asians have little ones, ask Opfor.


But still there is basic racial genetics, just like how white's cant get sickle cell. Its a genetic disease.

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Posted: Oct 27 2009, 01:32 PM
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When I was in basic training, we were forced to take showers together, naked. And at that point I realized not all black guys have horse cocks, and alot of white guys do. So its really the two factors which I stated, genetics and test during puberty.


Asians..... well they are screwed laugh.gif
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Joe's a cock gazer. laugh.gif

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